Artistic Finance
Artistic Finance provides theatre makers with honest, no-pretension insights into managing money in the entertainment industry. Hosted by lighting designer Ethan Steimel, this podcast delves into the personal finance challenges and business realities of show business, offering candid advice and practical tools tailored to creatives working behind the scenes. https://www.artisticfinance.com/
Episodes

Monday Dec 19, 2022
Monday Dec 19, 2022
A conversation with Claudia Hodgson, a Stage Manager turned Online Fitness Coach for backstage theatre professionals.
Her TheatreFit program has helped backstage theatre professionals increase their energy, get fitter and drop unwanted body fat in a sustainable way to ensure it doesn’t interfere (negatively) with their career.
Topics:
⭐️ Finding exercises you enjoy
⭐️ Best time of day for working out
⭐️ Importance of eating 10g of fiber
⭐️ Health challenges for offstage workers
⭐️ How long it takes to establish a health routine
⭐️ Working out twice a week is better than not working out
What we don’t talk about is mental health. While the physical fitness is what we focus on today, it isn’t a wholesome solution unless it is paired with mental health.
According to the World Health Organization, good mental health is when you can:
⭐️ Work productively
⭐️ Realize your potential
⭐️ Contribute to the community
⭐️ Cope with normal stresses of life
Physical fitness and a healthy diet can complement a balanced life. But the mental health has to be in good shape for a sustained healthy lifestyle.
Claudia on Instagram @claudia.theatrefit:
https://www.instagram.com/claudia.theatrefit/
Claudia on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachedbyclaudia/
7 Habits of Highly Effective People - Audiobook - by Stephen Covey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RrK8jR8MM&ab_channel=AudioBookBuzz
What is Good Mental Health?
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/good-mental-health#:~:text=Good%20mental%20health%20is%20more,work%20productively
Steven Bartlett - Audiobook - Sexy Happy Millionaire:
https://www.audible.com/pd/Happy-Sexy-Millionaire-Audiobook/1529305101
Diary of a CEO:
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDiaryOfACEO?app=desktop
Mother Goose - Panto with Sir Ian McKellan:
https://mothergooseshow.co.uk/
Richard Winkler - Lighting Designer & Producer:
https://www.broadwayworld.com/people/Richard-Winkler/
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Dec 11, 2022
Sunday Dec 11, 2022
Anna Robb, the founder of Theatre.Art.Life, a global media site for the entertainment industry, joins the show to discuss the process of keeping the site operating and growing for more than six years.
Topics:
⭐️ How to start a theatre website
⭐️ The team required to maintain the site
⭐️ Challenges of publishing media in China
⭐️ The financial viability of six+ years of operation
⭐️ Collaborations involving content exchanged for ads
⭐️ The importance of mentors for different areas of the business
This is the last of our episodes recorded at LDI in Las Vegas. We partnered with AYRTON Digital Lighting to record these interviews.
If you watch this video on Youtube you can see our Artistic Finance step-and-repeat paid for with our Patreon funds. THANK YOU, PATRONS!
Theatre.Art.Life:
https://www.theatreartlife.com/
Anna Robb:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-robb/
AYRTON Digital Lighting:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
LDI:
https://www.ldishow.com/
Light Talk:
http://www.lighttalk.org/
In 1: The Podcast - Anna Robb & Cory Pattak:
https://in1podcast.com/103-anna-robb/
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Dec 04, 2022
Sunday Dec 04, 2022
An interview with lighting designer Christina Giannelli.
Topics:
⭐️ Freelancing in Houston.
⭐️ Teaching as a retirement plan.
⭐️ Putting all contracts through USA 829.
⭐️ A good accountant will keep you on track.
⭐️ Aging parents while growing older yourself.
⭐️ Real estate as retirement plan & COVID safety net.
⭐️ Focusing youthful energy toward retirement planning.
⭐️ Having an agent negotiate contracts is well worth the agent’s fee.
Today’s episode was recorded in person at LDI in Las Vegas.
We partnered with AYRTON Digital Lighting, who sponsored the Women In Lighting session to raise awareness and community for women in entertainment lighting.
Takeaways:
⭐️ If you’re a part of USA 829, run everything through a USA 829 contract.
⭐️ Get an agent. Not to help with work but to handle the financial and contractual details.
⭐️ Getting older. Christina didn’t shy away from the reality that YOU have less energy as you get older. Use the energy of youth to set up a financial retirement plan.
⭐️ It is possible to be a freelance lighting designer in Houston. It’s not New York, LA, or Chicago. But Gary Archer and Christina Giannelli have both made their living as freelancers in Houston.
Christina Giannelli - Lighting Designer:
https://www.summitentertainmentgroup.com/designers/christina-r-giannelli
Christina Giannelli - LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christina-giannelli-4558a7b/
Drama Book Shop - Where Christina Picked Up A Financial Help Book:
https://www.dramabookshop.com/
Beer Can House - Houston Art Installation:
https://www.full.orangeshow.org/beer-can-house
Episode On Taxes - with Michael Farmer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_KOK7EPVM&t=25s&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Light Talk:
https://lighttalk.libsyn.com/light-talk-episode-296-swag-wars-interview-with-ethan-steimel
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Nov 27, 2022
Sunday Nov 27, 2022
A rebroadcast of our LIVE recording from LDI in Las Vegas.
Three lighting designers discussing finances from a freelance perspective.
Topics:
⭐️ Retirement plans.
⭐️ The cost of filing taxes.
⭐️ Earning a living in lighting.
⭐️ How much current jobs are paying.
Student Worksheet:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/classroom-75213267
Amy D Lux:
https://loboluxdesign.com/
IG/FB/TW @LoboLuxDesign
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-d-lux-953a7318a
https://utopiadreamscape.com/category/wellness/finance/
IG/FB @UtopiaDreamscape
Marsha Stern:
https://www.facebook.com/marsha.stern.58/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marsha-stern-5390585/
https://heartbeatofthedancefloor.com
Jen Schriever:
https://jenschriever.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-schriever-26277415/
Women In Lighting:
https://womeninlighting.com/site/page/about
AYRTON:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
LDI:
https://www.ldishow.com/
Marsha’s Episode:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/m6Iv5dEgOyIAEQ65Pd2e/Lighting-Up-The-Dance-Floor-with-Lighting-Designer-Marsha-Stern
Amy’s Episode:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/BqCl2H3bKJNfdKxWDhnK/Financial-Independence-with-Amy-D-Lux
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Monday Nov 14, 2022
Monday Nov 14, 2022
A conversation with multidisciplinary designer Amy D Lux about how she got on track to become financially independent.
Topics:
⭐️ Index funds
⭐️ Credit scores
⭐️ Compound interest
⭐️ Late bloomers can retire early
⭐️ Tools for budgeting and investing
⭐️ Using a Debt Avalanche to pay off debt
⭐️ FIRE - Financial Independence, Retire Early
⭐️ Loan rehabilitation - how to get your student loans out of default
If you think you’re too old to turn your financial life around, skip to minute 59. Amy gives a realistic timeline on how long it takes to get retirement on track.
Amy’s Financial Resources:
https://utopiadreamscape.com/category/wellness/finance/
Lighting
LoboLuxDesign.com
IG/FB/TW @LoboLuxDesign
LinkedIn Amy D Lux
Lifestyle
UtopiaDreamscape.com
IG/FB @UtopiaDreamscape
Retirement Contribution Limits 2023:
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/401k-limit-increases-to-22500-for-2023-ira-limit-rises-to-6500
Women In Lighting:
https://womeninlighting.com/site/page/about
Alphonse Mucha:
https://www.alfonsmucha.org/the-complete-works.html
Iran Death Toll:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-63242100
Compound Interest with Paddy Hirsch:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/DuW0LZ00yYMPsqiwFKyH/Compound-Interest-with-Paddy-Hirsch
Lap Chi Chu - Lighting Designer - SIMPLE retirement plan:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/a28i0vVANKirBQ1nR324/Lap-Chi-Chu-Lighting-Designer
Rich Dad, Poor Dad - Audiobook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gliZHyovI7c
Afford Anything - Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/afford-anything/id1079598542
Acorns - “Round Up” Investing:
https://www.acorns.com/
Mint.com:
https://mint.intuit.com/
Index Fund Investing:
https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/index-funds
VTSAX - Vanguard Index Fund:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VTSAX/
Debt Avalanche - How Amy Paid Off Her Debt:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/what-is-a-debt-avalanche
Paying More For Utilities Because of Low Credit Score:
https://blog.risecredit.com/can-bad-credit-score-affect-utility-bills/#:~:text=Can%20a%20Poor%20Credit%20Score,your%20service%20up%20and%20running.
Student Loan Default:
https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/default/get-out
Money Mustache - Saving Chart:
https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/01/13/the-shockingly-simple-math-behind-early-retirement/
AYRTON:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
LDI:
https://www.ldishow.com/
Book List:
Your Money or Your Life
4 Hour Work Week
The Simple Path To Wealth
The Millionaire Next Door
Early Retirement Extreme
Playing With Fire
Set For Life
Quit Like A Millionaire
Retire Early With Real Estate
The Bogleheads Guide To Investing
Financial Freedom
Rich Dad Poor Dad
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Monday Nov 07, 2022
Monday Nov 07, 2022
An update on the Artistic Finance 6k--the $6,000 of investments we made in May of 2021. We’re joined by a bond investment CEO and a data analyst to review how our investments compare to the S&P 500.
We discuss a new experiment! Our guests have purchased $1,000 investments of their own to see how they can do against my investments and the market at large.
Links & Resources:
Katie Buhrman:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinebuhrman/
https://brokercheck.finra.org/individual/summary/6520240
Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maithreyi-gopalakrishnan/
https://www.liquidificorp.com/
Ebony Madry:
https://www.instagram.com/ebmadry/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebony-madry-6a9651139/
Amy D Lux:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-d-lux-953a7318a/
https://utopiadreamscape.com/author/luvlogica/
Ethan Steimel
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethansteimel/
https://www.instagram.com/artisticfinance/?hl=en
LDI Show:
https://livedesigninternationalldi2022.sched.com/?iframe=no
Women In Lighting:
https://womeninlighting.com/site/page/about
AYRTON - Our LDI Partner:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
Watch on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIYjc9svOjg&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Patreon Bonus Episode Links:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-i-dont-want-i-bonds-11666984508?redirect=amp
Previous Episodes of Interest:
Cryptocurrency with Najah Roberts:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/JM5QCXLUhsqOfRDC8Dd2/Cryptocurrency-Bitcoin-with-Najah-Roberts
Bond Investing - with Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/Ls2svcghok0FemQVcNBp/Bond-Investing-with-Maithreyi-Gopalakrishnan
Wine Investing with Anthony Zhang:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/G7sKrzcmEwJeor6iAy4t/Wine-Investing-with-Anthony-Zhang
Affiliate links:
M1 Finance - Good for Long Term / Buy and Hold Investors - I don't think there is a sign up incentive:
m1finance.8bxp97.net/XxYPZg
Coinbase - Cryptocurrency Exchange - $10 of Bitcoin:
https://www.coinbase.com/join/steime_0
Vinovest - Wine Investing - 3 months of free wine storage:
https://app.vinovest.co?grsf=2p0wk3
Robinhood - Stock Trading - Intuitive and easy to use - Free Stock On Signup:
https://join.robinhood.com/ethans21
We Bull - Free Stock Trading - Design for Traders - I find it difficult to navigate - 5 Free Stocks on Signup:
https://act.webull.com/pm/do1QnByzkAhA/a3j/inviteUs/main
ETF - the S&P 500 index fund we hold:
IVV - iShares Core S&P 500
Stocks:
VST - Vistra Corp
LAC - Lithium Americas
TAP - Molson Coors Beverage (owners of Blue Moon)
SKLZ- Skillz
Cryptocurrency:
Bitcoin
Wine:
We own one case through Vinovest
Vinovest
Real Estate - REITS:
UBA - Urstadt Biddle Properties
SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
VICI - Experiential Real Estate - Previously MGM Properties
STAG - STAG Industrial
Art:
Bret Slater - Artist
https://www.bretslater.com/
Photos of the Painting:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/64295618
Full story of commissioning the piece - only accessible to patrons:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/61516832
Ian Dunlap - The Investor Ethan follows:
https://linktr.ee/themasterinvestor
...
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Oct 30, 2022
Sunday Oct 30, 2022
Part 2 of the interview with Steve Altinel, the artistic director of the Long Island Musical Theatre Festival.
We discuss:
⭐️ Rooting for the underdog.
⭐️ The Real Housewives of New Jersey.
⭐️ Payment schedules for public school salaries.
⭐️ Raising money for producing a musical festival.
⭐️ Using freelance gigs to save for purchasing an apartment.
⭐️ Getting Stephen Schwartz, Alice Ripley, and Rema Webb to teach master classes and perform for the LIMTF festival.
We also mention LDI 2022:
⭐️ AYRTON - Our LDI Partner
⭐️ ACT Entertainment - AYRTON's North American Rep
⭐️ Women In Lighting - 3:30p Friday, November 18 @ LDI
⭐️ Artistic Finance LIVE - 11:30a Friday, November 18 @ LDI
⭐️ FREE exhibit hall pass to LDI - use code PODCAST22
Become a Patron:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Watch on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/wUNQxAHcPgU
LDI Show:
https://livedesigninternationalldi2022.sched.com/?iframe=no
AYRTON - Our LDI Partner:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
Steve's Website:
http://www.stevenaltinel.com/about.html
LIMTF - Long Island Musical Theatre Festival:
http://limtf.org/
Virtual Chorus with Caroline Bowman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHC9axEnKQ
LIMTF Promo - 60 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVIJO4XIlmo&ab_channel=LIMTF
Health Coach for Offstage Theatre Workers:
https://www.instagram.com/coachedby_claudia/
Too Darn Hot - Kiss Me Kate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_YAKZH3lw&ab_channel=Classics
Alice Ripley:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Ripley
Stephen Schwartz:
https://stephenschwartz.com/
Rema Webb:
https://www.remawebb.com/
Wilson Chin episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdEZHQWklO0&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Monday Oct 24, 2022
Monday Oct 24, 2022
A discussion with Steve Altinel, the artistic director of the Long Island Musical Theatre Festival.
We discuss:
⭐️ Filling the artistic cup.
⭐️ Choosing music instead of the family business.
⭐️ The long hours necessary for working in theater.
⭐️ The financial stability of a teaching job versus freelancing.
⭐️ Preparing students to have a leg up in the professional world.
⭐️ Coordinating choirs for The Hunchback of Notre Dame at The Argyle Theater.
⭐️ Time management as a high school teacher while balancing professional music director jobs.
Early Release Of Part 2:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Part 2 Topics:
⭐️ Rooting for the underdog.
⭐️ The Real Housewives of New Jersey.
⭐️ Payment schedules for public school salaries.
⭐️ Raising money for producing a musical festival.
⭐️ Using freelance gigs to save for purchasing an apartment.
⭐️ Getting Stephen Schwartz, Alice Ripley, and Rema Webb to teach master classes and perform for the LIMTF festival.
Steve's Website:
http://www.stevenaltinel.com/about.html
LIMTF - Long Island Musical Theatre Festival:
http://limtf.org/
Virtual Chorus with Caroline Bowman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHC9axEnKQ
LIMTF Promo - 60 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVIJO4XIlmo&ab_channel=LIMTF
Health Coach for Offstage Theatre Workers:
https://www.instagram.com/coachedby_claudia/
Too Darn Hot - Kiss Me Kate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_YAKZH3lw&ab_channel=Classics
Adventures of Tom Sawyer - 36:17 is what I thought Steve was singing:
https://youtu.be/BzgWmapjIyI?t=2177
Alice Ripley:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Ripley
Stephen Schwartz:
https://stephenschwartz.com/
Rema Webb:
https://www.remawebb.com/
Wilson Chin episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdEZHQWklO0&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Oct 09, 2022
Sunday Oct 09, 2022
Today we learn how to pay workers on W2 instead of 1099 and how to profit first by organizing our business finances. Our guest is Abby Johnson, CEO of Matterhorn Business Development and Certified Profit First Professional for Small Business Owners.
W2 Topics:
⭐️ When to pay someone on a 1099 or a W2
⭐️ If W2, HOW to file the correct tax filing paperwork.
⭐️ How much it costs to hire a company to do the filings for you.
Profit First topics:
⭐️ Pulling aside profit first
⭐️ Setting aside money for you the owner
⭐️ Setting aside money for taxes and operating expenses
⭐️ How to go about modeling after the Profit First system for someone making less than $250,000 in annual revenue.
Bonus episode:
⭐️ Robo advisors
⭐️ Abby’s music career
⭐️ The Lion King on Broadway
Watch on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/g_rwZvgCMjY
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Artistic Finance LIVE at LDI:
https://livedesigninternationalldi2022.sched.com/event/19A4f/artistic-finance-a-freelance-perspective
Women In Lighting - at LDI:
https://livedesigninternationalldi2022.sched.com/event/19URq/women-in-lighting
Ayrton - Our Partner for LDI 2022:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
Abby Johnson on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbywinteregg/
Abby Johnson on Youtube - Profit First Intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg7lNs6u15k&ab_channel=MatterhornBusinessDevelopment
Patriot Software - Payroll Software:
https://www.patriotsoftware.com/payroll/
Other Payroll Companies:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/software/best-payroll-services/
Adventure To Profit - Work With Abby:
https://matterhornbizdev.lpages.co/atp/
Previous Episodes Discussed:
Caite Hevner - Projection Designer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ihwRyimcGw&t=4s&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Najah Roberts - Cryptocurrency & Bitcoin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1uTM469oI&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Ken Billington - Lighting Designer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuojA4i6y5c&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
Destiney Powell discusses how she makes money as a painter and how she makes money work for her.
Topics:
⭐️ Cars as liabilities
⭐️ Her seven streams of income.
⭐️ How to make money work for you.
⭐️ How Destiney became a full time painter.
⭐️ Passive investing including rental real estate
⭐️ Advantages to paying taxes instead of writing everything off.
Patron Bonus Episode:
⭐️ Homeschooling.
⭐️ Jane The Virgin.
⭐️ Wrapping shipping costs into the price of your produce.
⭐️ Saving money on shipping using 3rd party services instead of USPS.
⭐️ Listening to business podcasts has helped Destiney with selling her art.
⭐️ Being good with finances has opened doors for traveling and speaking to other artists about finances.
Watch on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/2Lh72RwckoY
Patron Episode:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/40-destiney-46669011
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Poetically Illustrated:
https://poeticallyillustrated.net/homelatest
Instagram @poeticallyillustrated:
https://www.instagram.com/poeticallyillustrated/
Twitter @destineydesired
https://twitter.com/DestineyDesired
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCACQCux0pvdkxCGFhHbfCIA
Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/PoeticallyIllustrated
Afro Tech:
https://experience.afrotech.com/
Afro Punk Conference:
https://afropunk.com/tag/conference/
Essence Festival:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essence_Music_Festival
Bisa Butler - Quilt Artist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisa_Butler
Links from the Patreon Only Episode:
Bigger Pockets - Real Estate Podcast:
https://www.biggerpockets.com/podcast
Earn Your Leisure - Business Podcast:
https://www.earnyourleisure.com/
Masters of Scale - Business Podcast by Founder of LinkedIn:
https://mastersofscale.com/
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel