Artistic Finance

Artistic Finance provides theatre makers with honest, no-pretension insights into managing money in the entertainment industry. Hosted by lighting designer Ethan Steimel, this podcast delves into the personal finance challenges and business realities of show business, offering candid advice and practical tools tailored to creatives working behind the scenes. https://www.artisticfinance.com/

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Episodes

Sunday Oct 30, 2022

Part 2 of the interview with Steve Altinel, the artistic director of the Long Island Musical Theatre Festival.
 
We discuss:
⭐️ Rooting for the underdog.
⭐️ The Real Housewives of New Jersey. 
⭐️ Payment schedules for public school salaries. 
⭐️ Raising money for producing a musical festival.
⭐️ Using freelance gigs to save for purchasing an apartment.
⭐️ Getting Stephen Schwartz, Alice Ripley, and Rema Webb to teach master classes and perform for the LIMTF festival.
 
We also mention LDI 2022:
⭐️ AYRTON - Our LDI Partner
⭐️ ACT Entertainment - AYRTON's North American Rep
⭐️ Women In Lighting - 3:30p Friday, November 18 @ LDI
⭐️ Artistic Finance LIVE - 11:30a Friday, November 18 @ LDI
 
⭐️ FREE exhibit hall pass to LDI - use code PODCAST22
 
Become a Patron:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Watch on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/wUNQxAHcPgU
 
LDI Show:
https://livedesigninternationalldi2022.sched.com/?iframe=no
 
AYRTON - Our LDI Partner:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
 
Steve's Website:
http://www.stevenaltinel.com/about.html
 
LIMTF - Long Island Musical Theatre Festival:
http://limtf.org/
 
Virtual Chorus with Caroline Bowman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHC9axEnKQ
 
LIMTF Promo - 60 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVIJO4XIlmo&ab_channel=LIMTF
 
Health Coach for Offstage Theatre Workers:
https://www.instagram.com/coachedby_claudia/
 
Too Darn Hot - Kiss Me Kate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_YAKZH3lw&ab_channel=Classics
 
Alice Ripley:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Ripley
 
Stephen Schwartz:
https://stephenschwartz.com/
 
Rema Webb:
https://www.remawebb.com/
 
Wilson Chin episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdEZHQWklO0&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
 
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Monday Oct 24, 2022

A discussion with Steve Altinel, the artistic director of the Long Island Musical Theatre Festival.
 
We discuss:
⭐️ Filling the artistic cup.
⭐️ Choosing music instead of the family business.
⭐️ The long hours necessary for working in theater.
⭐️ The financial stability of a teaching job versus freelancing.
⭐️ Preparing students to have a leg up in the professional world.
⭐️ Coordinating choirs for The Hunchback of Notre Dame at The Argyle Theater.
⭐️ Time management as a high school teacher while balancing professional music director jobs.
 
Early Release Of Part 2:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Part 2 Topics:
⭐️ Rooting for the underdog.
⭐️ The Real Housewives of New Jersey. 
⭐️ Payment schedules for public school salaries. 
⭐️ Raising money for producing a musical festival.
⭐️ Using freelance gigs to save for purchasing an apartment.
⭐️ Getting Stephen Schwartz, Alice Ripley, and Rema Webb to teach master classes and perform for the LIMTF festival.
 
Steve's Website:
http://www.stevenaltinel.com/about.html
 
LIMTF - Long Island Musical Theatre Festival:
http://limtf.org/
 
Virtual Chorus with Caroline Bowman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiHC9axEnKQ
 
LIMTF Promo - 60 seconds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVIJO4XIlmo&ab_channel=LIMTF
 
Health Coach for Offstage Theatre Workers:
https://www.instagram.com/coachedby_claudia/
 
Too Darn Hot - Kiss Me Kate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_YAKZH3lw&ab_channel=Classics
 
Adventures of Tom Sawyer - 36:17 is what I thought Steve was singing:
https://youtu.be/BzgWmapjIyI?t=2177
 
Alice Ripley:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Ripley
 
Stephen Schwartz:
https://stephenschwartz.com/
 
Rema Webb:
https://www.remawebb.com/
 
Wilson Chin episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdEZHQWklO0&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
 
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Oct 09, 2022

Today we learn how to pay workers on W2 instead of 1099 and how to profit first by organizing our business finances. Our guest is Abby Johnson, CEO of Matterhorn Business Development and Certified Profit First Professional for Small Business Owners.
 
W2 Topics:
⭐️ When to pay someone on a 1099 or a W2
⭐️ If W2, HOW to file the correct tax filing paperwork.
⭐️ How much it costs to hire a company to do the filings for you.
 
Profit First topics:
⭐️ Pulling aside profit first
⭐️ Setting aside money for you the owner
⭐️ Setting aside money for taxes and operating expenses
⭐️ How to go about modeling after the Profit First system for someone making less than $250,000 in annual revenue.
 
Bonus episode:
⭐️ Robo advisors
⭐️ Abby’s music career
⭐️ The Lion King on Broadway
 
Watch on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/g_rwZvgCMjY
 
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Artistic Finance LIVE at LDI:
https://livedesigninternationalldi2022.sched.com/event/19A4f/artistic-finance-a-freelance-perspective
 
Women In Lighting - at LDI:
https://livedesigninternationalldi2022.sched.com/event/19URq/women-in-lighting
 
Ayrton - Our Partner for LDI 2022:
https://www.ayrton.eu/
 
Abby Johnson on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbywinteregg/
 
Abby Johnson on Youtube - Profit First Intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg7lNs6u15k&ab_channel=MatterhornBusinessDevelopment
 
Patriot Software - Payroll Software:
https://www.patriotsoftware.com/payroll/
 
Other Payroll Companies:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/software/best-payroll-services/
 
Adventure To Profit - Work With Abby:
https://matterhornbizdev.lpages.co/atp/
 
Previous Episodes Discussed:
 
Caite Hevner - Projection Designer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ihwRyimcGw&t=4s&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
 
Najah Roberts - Cryptocurrency & Bitcoin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI1uTM469oI&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
 
Ken Billington - Lighting Designer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuojA4i6y5c&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
 
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Tuesday Oct 04, 2022

Destiney Powell discusses how she makes money as a painter and how she makes money work for her.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Cars as liabilities 
⭐️ Her seven streams of income.
⭐️ How to make money work for you.
⭐️ How Destiney became a full time painter.
⭐️ Passive investing  including rental real estate
⭐️ Advantages to paying taxes instead of writing everything off.
 
Patron Bonus Episode:
⭐️ Homeschooling.
⭐️ Jane The Virgin.
⭐️ Wrapping shipping costs into the price of your produce.
⭐️ Saving money on shipping using 3rd party services instead of USPS.
⭐️ Listening to business podcasts has helped Destiney with selling her art.
⭐️ Being good with finances has opened doors for traveling and speaking to other artists about finances.
 
Watch on Youtube:
https://youtu.be/2Lh72RwckoY
 
Patron Episode:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/40-destiney-46669011
 
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Poetically Illustrated:
https://poeticallyillustrated.net/homelatest
 
Instagram @poeticallyillustrated:
https://www.instagram.com/poeticallyillustrated/
 
Twitter @destineydesired
https://twitter.com/DestineyDesired
 
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCACQCux0pvdkxCGFhHbfCIA
 
Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/PoeticallyIllustrated
 
Afro Tech:
https://experience.afrotech.com/
 
Afro Punk Conference:
https://afropunk.com/tag/conference/
 
Essence Festival:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essence_Music_Festival
 
Bisa Butler - Quilt Artist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisa_Butler
 
Links from the Patreon Only Episode:
 
Bigger Pockets - Real Estate Podcast:
https://www.biggerpockets.com/podcast
 
Earn Your Leisure - Business Podcast:
https://www.earnyourleisure.com/
 
Masters of Scale - Business Podcast by Founder of LinkedIn:
https://mastersofscale.com/
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel
 

Sunday Sep 25, 2022

Hair, wig, and makeup designer Cookie Jordan talks about how she has managed her finances from The Santa Fe Opera to Broadway.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Paying rent early
⭐️ Unions on Broadway
⭐️ Money is to serve you, you do not serve money
⭐️ When working with non profits, asking for in-kind donation receipts
 
Become a patron:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Episode outtakes:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/39-cookie-jordan-46423499
 
 
Cookie has designed 26 Broadway shows including A Strange Loop, The Piano Lesson, Slave Play, and The Cher Show. She has been nominated for three Drama Desk Awards for hair and makeup design.
 
Cookie started at The Santa Fe Opera and has now designed in nearly every opera house in the USA. She has also designed in theaters from Arena Stage, to New York City Center, to Washington DC’s Ford’s Theater.
 
Cookie's Bio:
https://summitentertainmentgroup.com/project/cookie-jordan/
 
Papillon Dog (Gus):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papillon_dog
 
Anywhere Cafe (live music) 2nd St & 2nd Avenue in Manhattan:
https://www.anywaycafe.com/east-village
 
Chimayo - New Mexico (for red chiles and Cookie's art):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimayo,_New_Mexico
 
Tom Watson - Broadway Hair & Wig Designer:
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/tom-watson-76348
 
You Can't Take It With You (play):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can%27t_Take_It_with_You_(play)
 
Choir Boy (play):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choir_Boy
 
Steve Hendel - Fela! Producer (IG @FelaProducer):
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-organization/ruth-steve-hendel-521266
 
Fela!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fela!
 
High School Musical Tour (2006 - I had said 2008):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_School_Musical:_The_Concert
Become a patron at:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel
 

Sunday Sep 18, 2022

Theatre director Ronny Dutra talks about how he handles money and why he moved to NYC for a career in theatre.
 
We discuss:
⭐️ The Music Man on Broadway
⭐️ Planning the work. Working the plan.
⭐️ No matter what, keeping your eye on the prize.
⭐️ Ronny’s dance training and competitive ballroom dancing.
⭐️ How his goal of being a Broadway performer that shifted to directing.
 
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Ronny Dutra - Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/RonnyDutra
 
Artistic Finance - Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvdJLOkf6Nk6ucb9ISo0-A
 
Ronny Dutra Website:
https://ronnydutra.com/
 
Ronny Dutra Instagram - @ronnydutra:
https://www.instagram.com/ronnydutra/?hl=en
 
Rio Uphill:
https://www.riouphill.com/
 
The Phantom of the Opera on Broadway:
https://us.thephantomoftheopera.com/
 
The Music Man on Broadway:
https://musicmanonbroadway.com/
 
Cláudio Botehlo - Episode 13 (English):
https://youtu.be/_Rhf8Vhn924
 
Cláudio Botehlo - Episode 13.1 (Portuguese):
https://youtu.be/QnMwWZF89Gw
 
John Lee Beatty - Episode 32:
https://youtu.be/QqZzORzV1j8
 
Ken Billington - Episode 38:
https://youtu.be/cuojA4i6y5c
 
Nina Goldman - Episode 11:
https://youtu.be/H20I0ZX7P1o
 
Cats - Ken Page - Episode 113:
https://youtu.be/k9-80UGHvvg
 
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Provide feedback:
https://forms.gle/utJU1SAZsNY782XK6 
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Sep 11, 2022

"If you have what you want and need, you're doing fine. And if you can afford to have it, you're doing 3000% better than a lot of people."
 
Discussing Cats with original Broadway cast member Ken Page!
 
Topics:
⭐️ The first megamusical
⭐️ Audition and rehearsal process
⭐️ Broadway version versus the West End 
⭐️ Judi Dench playing Old Deuteronomy in the film
 
Cats Stats:
⭐️ 4th longest running Broadway show of all time
⭐️ 9th highest grossing Broadway show of all time
⭐️ 2nd most popular tee shirt of the 1980s (globally)
⭐️ 3.5 billion gross as of 2012 (reported by New York Post)
 
Patron episode:
⭐️ The Muny - Ken's 47 shows (2 with Ethan)
⭐️ Ken's trip to Italy - mistaken for Morgan Freeman
⭐️ Ain't Misbehavin' - John Lee Beatty's Broadway set design
 
Patron Outtakes:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/113-cats-71656249
 
Video Version:
https://youtu.be/k9-80UGHvvg
 
Ken Page - IBDB.com:
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/ken-page-55425
 
Cats IBDB.com:
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-production/cats-4186
 
Highest Grossing Broadway Shows of All Time:
https://www.topviewnyc.com/packages/the-highest-grossing-broadway-shows-of-all-time
 
Cats Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_(musical)
 
Cats The Musical - Tickets:
https://www.catsthemusical.com/
 
The Megamusical - by Jessica Sternfeld
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2346738.The_Megamusical
 
Cats Box Office Disaster Tanks Universal's Profit:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/23/media/cats-comcast-earnings/index.html
 
Why Exactly Did So Many People Like Cats In The First Place:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/why-exactly-did-so-many-people-like-cats-in-the-first-place/2019/12/19/3503e3b8-2006-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html
 
How Cats Changed Broadway:
https://variety.com/2016/legit/news/how-cats-changed-broadway-1201827574/
 
 
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Provide feedback:
https://forms.gle/utJU1SAZsNY782XK6 
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel
 

Monday Aug 22, 2022

Sound engineer Brandon Blackwell talks about day trading during the COVID 19 pandemic.
 
Brandon has mixed audio for Lizzo, A$AP Rocky, Ciara, Nicki Minaj, Camila Cabello, Drake, Big Sean, Chaka Khan, Jennifer Hudson, and more.
 
We discuss:
⭐️ Day trading is accessible. 
⭐️ You will suffer loses short term.
⭐️ Try new things until you find traction.
⭐️ Recessions and depressions will happen.
⭐️ Artists have to be financially prepared for townturns.
 
Brandon's links:
BrandonBlackwell.com
https://www.instagram.com/brandonblackwell23
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonrblackwell/
https://www.youtube.com/user/bblack1023xbox360
 
Become a patron:www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Episode outtakes:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/35-brandon-45491471
 
Full Sail University:
https://www.fullsail.edu/
 
Ray Chew:
https://www.raychew.com/
 
A$AP Rocky:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky
 
Lizzo:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizzo
 
Summer Walker:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Walker
 
Snoh Aalegra:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoh_Aalegra
 
Tayla Parx:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tayla_Parx
 
Entourage:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entourage_(American_TV_series)
 
Guggenheim Bilbao - Beautiful Building by Frank Gehry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guggenheim_Museum_Bilbao
 
1099 vs. W2:
https://www.seekcapital.com/blog/1099-vs-w2-employee/
 
Revolution Trading Group:
https://discord.me/revolutiontradinggroup
 
The Investor's Podcast - We Study Billionaires:
https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/we-study-billionaires/
 
Trend - trading:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trendtrading.asp#:~:text=Trend%20trading%20is%20a%20trading,a%20security%20is%20trending%20upward.
 
Resistance - trading:
https://www.investopedia.com/trading/support-and-resistance-basics/
 
Robinhood Trading App - Ethan's Affiliate LInk:
https://join.robinhood.com/ethans21
 
Masters of Scale - Podcast by Founder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman:
https://mastersofscale.com/
 
Per Diem:
https://www.gsa.gov/travel/plan-book/per-diem-rates/frequently-asked-questions-per-diem
 
Andrew Sotomayor - Episode 34:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/mdFcucgJ24BFdhNZfvXv
 
Links from the patron only episode:
 
Kathy Perkins - Episode 8:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/HwXnrcTOYRUBQ3SZ664T
 
Earn Your Leisure - Podcast:
https://www.earnyourleisure.com/
 
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Aug 14, 2022


An update on the Artistic Finance 6k--the $6,000 of investments we made in May of 2021. We’re joined by a bond investment CEO and a data analyst to review how our investments compare to the S&P 500.
We discuss a new experiment! Our guests have purchased $1,000 investments of their own to see how they can do against my investments and the market at large.
 
Links & Resources: 
 
Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan - CEO of LiquidiFi:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maithreyi-gopalakrishnan/
maithreyi@liquidificorp.com
 
Katie Buhrman - Data Analyst:
@ktbuhr on Instagram
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinebuhrman/
https://brokercheck.finra.org/individual/summary/6520240
 
Ethan Steimel - Lighting Designer:
@artisticfinance on Instagram
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethansteimel/
 
The Investor's Podcast - an episode about Bonds:
https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/bitcoin-fundamentals/fed-policy-bitcoin-etfs-euro-dollar-impacts-steven-mcclurg/
 
Previous Episodes of Interest:
 
Cryptocurrency with Najah Roberts:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/JM5QCXLUhsqOfRDC8Dd2/Cryptocurrency-Bitcoin-with-Najah-Roberts
 
Bond Investing - aka I-Bonds - with Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/Ls2svcghok0FemQVcNBp/Bond-Investing-with-Maithreyi-Gopalakrishnan
 
Wine Investing with Anthony Zhang:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/G7sKrzcmEwJeor6iAy4t/Wine-Investing-with-Anthony-Zhang
 
Affiliate links:
M1 Finance - Good for Long Term / Buy and Hold Investors - I don't think there is a sign up incentive:
m1finance.8bxp97.net/XxYPZg
 
Coinbase - Cryptocurrency Exchange - $10 of Bitcoin:
https://www.coinbase.com/join/steime_0
 
Vinovest - Wine Investing - 3 months of free wine storage:
https://app.vinovest.co?grsf=2p0wk3
 
Robinhood - Stock Trading - Intuitive and easy to use - Free Stock On Signup:
https://join.robinhood.com/ethans21
 
We Bull - Free Stock Trading - Design for Traders - I find it difficult to navigate - 5 Free Stocks on Signup:
https://act.webull.com/pm/do1QnByzkAhA/a3j/inviteUs/main
 
ETF - the S&P 500 index fund we hold:
IVV - iShares Core S&P 500
 
Stocks:
VST - Vistra Corp
LAC - Lithium Americas
TAP - Molson Coors Beverage (owners of Blue Moon)
SKLZ- Skillz
 
Cryptocurrency:
Bitcoin
 
Wine:
We own one case through Vinovest
Vinovest
 
Real Estate - REITS:
UBA - Urstadt Biddle Properties
SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
VICI - Experiential Real Estate - Previously MGM Properties
STAG - STAG Industrial
 
Art:
Bret Slater - Artist
https://www.bretslater.com/
 
Photos of the Painting:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/64295618
 
Full story of commissioning the piece - only accessible to patrons:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/61516832
 
Ian Dunlap - The Investor Ethan follows:
https://linktr.ee/themasterinvestor
 
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Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel
 

Sunday Aug 07, 2022

Broadway producer Heather Shields explains how to invest in a Broadway show. (Part 2 of 2)
 
We discuss:
⭐️ Measuring revenue by gross potential
⭐️ How to access opportunities to invest
⭐️ A minimum investing unit for a Broadway show
⭐️ Broadway investors MUST BE accredited investors
⭐️ Broadway investors almost always file an extension for taxes
⭐️ Documents investors sign - operating agreement, subscription agreement, and tax documents
 
Bonus Episode - How We Became Co Producers On Broadway:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/how-we-became-co-70214738
 
Heather Shields - @heathereshields::
https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-shields-7a209747
 
Business of Broadway:
https://www.thebusinessofbroadway.com/heather-shields
 
Tom Smedes Productions:
https://www.tomsmedes.com/
 
The Industry Standard Group:
https://www.theindustrystandardgroup.com/
 
The Producer’s Hub:
https://www.producerhub.org/
 
Social Security Benefits - create an account at any age::
https://www.ssa.gov/
 
Broadway’s A Christmas Carol:
https://achristmascarolbroadway.com/
 
Forbes Article on 2019 Broadway Season Financials:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeseymour/2019/07/11/investors-set-to-lose-100-million-as-broadway-undergoes-huge-market-correction/?sh=a29734447d24
 
SEC Accredited Investor:
https://www.sec.gov/corpfin/amendments-accredited-investor-definition-secg
 
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
 
Provide feedback:
https://forms.gle/utJU1SAZsNY782XK6 
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

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