Artistic Finance
Artistic Finance provides theatre makers with honest, no-pretension insights into managing money in the entertainment industry. Hosted by lighting designer Ethan Steimel, this podcast delves into the personal finance challenges and business realities of show business, offering candid advice and practical tools tailored to creatives working behind the scenes. https://www.artisticfinance.com/
Episodes

Sunday Sep 22, 2024
Sunday Sep 22, 2024
A panel of theatrical lighting designers discuss pay negotiations. If this sounds like a frightening topic, make sure to listen because this is a positive and calm take on the process.
Topics:
⭐️ Determining a rate
⭐️ How to conduct yourself
⭐️ How to advocate for yourself
⭐️ When to use an agent and what they do
⭐️ Using the union, USA 829, resources, whether you’re a member or not
Workbook:
https://www.patreon.com/artisticfinance/shop/pay-negotiation-for-lighting-designers-312412?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=productshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Video Version
https://youtu.be/1ScEXspA-6o
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
EPI Family Budget Calculator
https://www.epi.org/resources/budget/
Cost of Living Calculator - MIT
https://livingwage.mit.edu/
Spoleto Festival
https://spoletousa.org/
Natalie Robin email
nrobin@usa829.org
Isabella Byrd
https://www.isabellabyrd.design/
Natalie Robin
https://www.natalierobinlighting.com/
Jen Schriever - Gemini
https://jenschriever.com/
Ken Billington
https://www.kbany.com/
Aja M Jackson - Sagittarius
https://www.ajajacksonlighting.com/
Heather Gilbert
https://www.hgilbertdesign.com/
Jeanette Oi-Suk Yew - Aries
https://www.jeanetteyew.com/
Instagram Handles
@isabelllaa@natalierobinld@jen.schriever@ajamjackson@htglights@jeanette_yew@unitedscenicartists
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
Moderated by Natalie Robin
Hosted by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Sep 15, 2024
Sunday Sep 15, 2024
A lively discussion between lighting designers about their design tools and the associated costs.
A broadcast of a LIVE recording that took place at LDI in Las Vegas.
Topics:
⭐️ The essential software for entertainment lighting
⭐️ The costs and considerations of that essential software
⭐️ What software we expect to be essential in the near future
LDs:
Ebony Madry.
Carolyn Wong
Ariel Benjamin
Dani Deutschmann
Worksheet
https://www.patreon.com/posts/163-live-from-vs-108861929?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
Video version
https://youtu.be/3SwwOTGx-Yw
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
LDI:
https://www.ldishow.com/
LDG:
https://ldg.com/
Vectorworks
https://www.vectorworks.net/en-US/spotlight
Lightwright
https://www.lightwright.com/
Capture - Previz
https://www.capture.se/
Twinmotion
https://www.twinmotion.com/en-US
Vision
https://www.vectorworks.net/en-US/vision
Lightning Tapes
https://lightningtapes.com/
AutoPlot
https://www.autoplotvw.com/
Moving Light Assistant
https://www.movinglightassistant.com/wp_folder/
VOR
https://getvor.app/
Filemaker Pro
https://www.claris.com/filemaker/
ETC Software
https://www.etcconnect.com/eos-software/
Luma Light Meter
https://lu.mu/
Monday
https://monday.com/
Asana
https://asana.com/
Trello:
https://trello.com/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-g-wong/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebony-madry-6a9651139/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-lighting-design-group/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/livedesignldi/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethansteimel/
Instagram Handles
@ldishow
@ldg_lightingdesigngroup
@cwong619
@ebmadry
@ajbenjam
@ducksrusdani
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Sep 08, 2024
Sunday Sep 08, 2024
Lighting designer Carolyn Wong discusses the finances of her New York-based dance and theatre career. The most recent decade has been spent as the Worldwide Associate Lighting Designer for Disney’s The Lion King.
We discuss:
⭐️ Investing in yourself
⭐️ Keeping living expenses low
⭐️ The sustainable hustle of freelancing
Video version
https://youtu.be/bjqiT4rxJ1Q
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
Carolyn Wong
https://www.wongnumber.com/
The Lion King
https://lionking.com/
Spider-Man: Turn Off The Dark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_Turn_Off_the_Dark
Jacob's Pillow Dance Festival
https://www.jacobspillow.org/programs/intern-programs/
Bates Dance Festival
https://www.bates.edu/dance/bates-dance-festival/
Capture - Previz Software
https://www.capture.se/
Monarch - Money Management Software
https://www.monarchmoney.com/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolyn-g-wong/
Instagram Handles
@cwong619
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Sep 01, 2024
Sunday Sep 01, 2024
A discussion about labor in theatrical production with lighting designer Natalie Robin & performing arts manager Brídín Clements. They have authored the new book Theatre Work: Reimagining the Labor of Theatrical Production.
Topics:
⭐️ How institutions can prioritize workers
⭐️ Retention and training challenges for theaters
⭐️ Minimum wage, living wage, and thriving wage
⭐️ Holding theaters accountable for their mission statement
Artistic Finance:
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
Video version:
https://youtu.be/vj2qqnYbU8Q
Theatre Work:
https://www.productionlaborbook.com/
Theatre Work - Links & Actions:
More about the bookISBN: 9781032361345
Order your copy: from the publisher or from your local bookshop.
Purchase the e-book.
Share our sell sheet with your local bookstore.
Teachers, request an inspection copy here.
Book reviewers, request a review copy here.
Journalists, please contact newsroom@taylorandfrancis.com
Gender Inequity:
https://thewagnerreview.org/2021/11/addressing-gender-inequity-in-theatrical-design/
Pay Equity in Internships:
https://howlround.com/does-it-pay
Longitudinal Study - Deep Dive - Return To The Stage
https://rattle-beetle-870.notion.site/Return-to-the-Stage-fd1a91cc24b34e19990141c70dbf99c2
Design Action
https://www.design-action.com/
We See You WAT - https://www.weseeyouwat.com/
1/52 Project
https://www.oneeveryfiftytwo.org/
Wingspace
https://wingspace.com/
Behind the Scenes
https://wp.behindthescenescharity.org/
Production On Deck
https://www.productionondeck.com/
Porsche McGovern - Stage Directions - Where Is All The Production Staff Survey
https://www.productionondeck.com/
Instagram Handles
@theatre.work.book
@bridinsarah
@natalierobinld
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Aug 18, 2024
Sunday Aug 18, 2024
EDIT: Accidentally recorded only on the left audio track! Your headphones aren’t broken! 🤦🏼♂️
…
A rambling Ethan talks about upcoming episodes.
Hollywood Reporter Article
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/1-5x-listening-speed-podcasters-divided-1235969454/
Quicklinks - Artistic Finance:
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance

Sunday Apr 21, 2024
Sunday Apr 21, 2024
An update on the Artistic Finance 6k--the $6,000 of investments we made in May of 2021. A panel composed of a bond investment CEO and three lighting designers review how our investments compare to the market.
Quicklinks - Artistic Finance:
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
Video Version:
https://youtu.be/Yz5E-gI4bgg
Rivian EV Trucks:
https://rivian.com/
Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maithreyi-gopalakrishnan/
https://www.liquidificorp.com/
Ebony Madry:
https://www.instagram.com/ebmadry/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebony-madry-6a9651139/
Amy D Lux:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-d-lux-953a7318a/
https://utopiadreamscape.com/author/luvlogica/
Ethan Steimel
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethansteimel/
https://www.instagram.com/artisticfinance/?hl=en
Instagram handles:
@ebmadry
@liquidifi
@utopiadreamscape
@ethansteimel
@artisticfinance
Affiliate links:
M1 Finance - Good for Long Term / Buy and Hold Investors - no sign up incentive:
m1finance.8bxp97.net/XxYPZg
Coinbase - Cryptocurrency Exchange - $10 of Bitcoin:
https://www.coinbase.com/join/steime_0
Vinovest - Wine Investing - 3 months of free wine storage:
https://app.vinovest.co?grsf=2p0wk3
Robinhood:
https://join.robinhood.com/ethans21
We Bull:
https://act.webull.com/pm/do1QnByzkAhA/a3j/inviteUs/main
ETF:
IVV - iShares Core S&P 500
Stocks:
VST - Vistra Corp
LAC - Lithium Americas
TAP - Molson Coors Beverage (owners of Blue Moon)
SKLZ- Skillz
Cryptocurrency:
Bitcoin
Wine:
Vinovest
Real Estate - REITS:
REG - Regency Centers Corp -Previously UBA
SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
VICI - Experiential Real Estate - Previously MGM Properties
STAG - STAG Industrial
Art:
Bret Slater - Artist
https://www.bretslater.com/
Photos of our Painting:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/64295618
Full story of commissioning the piece:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/61516832
Ian Dunlap - The Investor Ethan follows:
https://linktr.ee/themasterinvestor
...
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Feb 18, 2024
Sunday Feb 18, 2024
An interview with the Executive Director of Philadelphia Scenic Works, Nathan Renner-Johnson, and Robin Stamey, production manager at Rutgers University, discussing how designers and productions can share resources.
Topics:
⭐️ Theatre workers being paid on W2 or 1099
⭐️ Joining a collective of artists or going the road solo
⭐️ Scenic outsourcing and collaboration between theatre companies
⭐️ Coworking spaces for theatre makers from designers to performers
Quicklinks for Artistic Finance:
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
Video version:
https://youtu.be/C_Pjql5AeFE
Philadelphia Scenic Works:
https://philadelphiascenicworks.org/
Department of Labor - New Rules for Classifying Independent Contractors:
https://www.swlaw.com/publications/legal-alerts/us-department-of-labor-issues-new-final-rule-for-classifying-independent-contractors-effective-march-11-2024
...
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel
Instagram Handles:
@rstamey
@itsnaterj
@sevenengines
@phlscenicworks
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel

Tuesday Jan 16, 2024
Tuesday Jan 16, 2024
Review of The Money Manual by Tonya Rapley.
This is the Financial Independence Club, brought to you in collaboration with Amy D Lux and presented this month by Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan.
We discuss:
⭐️ Spending triggers
⭐️ Budgeting methods
⭐️ Generational wealth
⭐️ Turning financial tips and tricks into habits
⭐️ The breakdown of what makes up a credit score
⭐️ How finance is connected to the leading cause of suicide
⭐️ Building up savings for yourself versus paying off high interest debt
⭐️ EASY areas to cut spending - would a year without ad-free Spotify be such a bad thing?
Quicklinks:
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
Video:
https://youtu.be/ZtcrUTVhDxg
The Money Manual:
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9781987614787
Profit First:
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9780735214149
IDAs:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/ida.asp
Earn To Learn:
https://vantagewest.org/individual-development-accounts-ida/
Rit Rich Life - Amy's Friend's Podcast:
https://fitrichlife.com/podcast
Bask Bank - High Interest Savings:
https://www.baskbank.com/
Related Episodes:
Credit Card Episode with Marc Santos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZFjQtv8XBs&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Profit First Episode with Abby Johnson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_rwZvgCMjY&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Debt Episode with Joe Longthorne:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1UiVWdceEM&list=PLW6sWaidg3usOhFaWW-X_pCpJj4xsXMYH&index=114&t=61s&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Budgeting Episode with Rebecca Selkowe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2G3hOnqDXI&ab_channel=ArtisticFinance
Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maithreyi-gopalakrishnan/
https://www.liquidificorp.com/
Amy D Lux:
https://loboluxdesign.com/
https://www.instagram.com/loboluxdesign/
Ethan Steimel:
https://www.ethansteimel.com/artistic-finance.html
https://www.instagram.com/artisticfinance/?hl=en
Instagram Handles:
@liquidifi
@ethansteimel
@artisticfinance
@loboluxdesign
@officialamydlux

Monday Nov 13, 2023
Monday Nov 13, 2023
Today’s episode is a panel discussion on EVs and their benefits for artists, guest hosted and edited by friend of the show Carl Faber. Recorded in March of 2023, the guests include: Mikhael Tara Garver, Phil McBeth, Ryan Durham, & Travis McHale.
Topics:
⭐️ Features of EVs and EV ownership
⭐️ Financial incentives of new and used EVs
⭐️ Scheduled maintenance (or lack thereof)
⭐️ Bidirectional charging (aka run your home’s electricity off your car’s battery)
⭐️ Supply chain and production delays
⭐️ Write-offs and taxes (particularly Section 179 Depreciation)
⭐️ Predictions for an EV-centric future
Links and Resources:
⭐️ Carl’s EV article (inspiration for this episode): typefully.com/cxfaber/UOp2kz6
⭐️ Resource for global gas prices: globalpetrolprices.com/
⭐️ Federal Tax Credits: irs.gov/clean-vehicle-tax-credits
⭐️ Charging Station Tax Credit: irs.gov/credits-deductions/alternative-fuel-vehicle-refueling-property-credit
⭐️ Section 179 Depreciation: www.investopedia.com/terms/s/section-179.asp
Guests
Carl Faber, Lighting Designer
Bio: Carl Faber is a visual artist and live-event creator who often, but not always, works as a Lighting Designer for theater, dance, opera, and immersive experiences. He’s created work across the United States, Europe, and Asia, and participates as a company member and consultant with multiple arts organizations. He has an extensive assisting background as well, with credits including the Broadway productions of The Book of Mormon, Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson, and August: Osage County. Outside the field of stage lighting, he’s toured in various production capacities with Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band, Bon Iver, and The National. He also designs websites, creates database solutions, edits visual media, and has taught Design and Stagecraft at Portland State University. He is a proud member and Western Region Board member of United Scenic Artists Local USA 829, and is based in Portland, Oregon.
Professional Dashboard: Carlfaber.com
Lighting Design Portfolio: Carlfaberdesign.com
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/carlfaber/
Mikhael Tara Garver, Immersive Experience Creator/Director
Mikhaeltaragarver.com
Phil McBeth, Retired Technical Director & Lighting Designer
Ryan Durham, Software Developer & Former Stage Manager
Bio: After attending the Yale School of Drama for Stage Management, Ryan spent a number of years working as a stage manager in New York and on the West Coast. Eventually he transitioned into the tech sector and now works as a senior software engineer for Firebrand Technologies.
Travis McHale, Lighting Designer & Educator
Bio: Travis McHale is a New York based lighting designer. Recent NYC: Is There Still Sex In The City (Daryl Roth), Get Happy: A Judy Garland Centennial Celebration starring Jessica Vosk (Carnegie), #DateMe: An OK Cupid Experiment (Westside), Mister Miss America (Rattlestick). Travis works extensively in regional theatre, has been associate designer on 11 Broadway shows, and 7 seasons designing runway shows for NY Fashion Week (IMCD). He also designs for Norwegian, Carnival, Regent, and Oceania cruise lines. Design faculty: SUNY New Paltz. Member: United Scenic Artists Local USA 829.
Travismchale.com
Instagram: @captainmchale
Episode Credits
Video & Audio Editing by Carl Faber
Panel conducted via Zoom
Re-mixed & Edited on Davinci Resolve
AI Voiceover Clone: elevenlabs.io
AI Audio Post-Production: https://auphonic.com/

Sunday Nov 05, 2023
Sunday Nov 05, 2023
Learn about running a live events company as Amy D Lux interviews Cindy Lo of RED VELVET.
Topics:
⭐️ The future of events in a post covid era
⭐️ Keeping the business alive during the pandemic
⭐️ Starting a successful experiential agency in Austin TX
Quicklinks:
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
RED VELVET:
https://weareredvelvet.com/
Strong Events:
https://www.strongevents.com/
LDI Artistic Finance Recording:
https://sched.co/1SnxM
Monarch:
https://www.monarchmoney.com/
Empower - formerly Personal Capital:
https://www.empower.com/
Carl Faber - Used Nissan Leaf Blog Post:
https://typefully.com/cxfaber/UOp2kz6
Utopia Dreamscape:
https://utopiadreamscape.com/