Artistic Finance
Artistic Finance provides theatre makers with honest, no-pretension insights into managing money in the entertainment industry. Hosted by lighting designer Ethan Steimel, this podcast delves into the personal finance challenges and business realities of show business, offering candid advice and practical tools tailored to creatives working behind the scenes. https://www.artisticfinance.com/
Episodes

Sunday Sep 05, 2021
Sunday Sep 05, 2021
Comic creator Christopher O. Ajayi discusses how he publishes his comic on Webtoon, his rendering technique and time management schedule, and what he's doing to make money from his art.
Christopher O. Ajayi is a comic book artist and video creator based in Queens, NY. He launched his webcomic Fourth Clave No Sun in November 2020. He also makes videos of his sketches.
Chris's Instagram @christopheroajayi:
https://www.instagram.com/christopheroajayi/
Fourth Clave No Sun - his digital comic (FREE):
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/fourth-clave-no-sun/ep1-prologue/viewer?title_no=537326&episode_no=3
Chris's Patreon and Youtube:
https://linktr.ee/ChristopherOAjayi
Pixellab - Chris uses to add contrast to his sketches:
https://pixellab.en.uptodown.com/android
Medibang Paint Pro - Chris uses to color and shade his sketches:
https://medibangpaint.com/en/
Webtoon:
https://www.webtoons.com/en/
How To Make Money From Comic Strips - article:
https://www.grekoprinting-comixwellspring.com/blog/how-to-make-money-from-comic-strips/
Manga - definition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga
Manhwa - definition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhwa
Anime - definition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime
Miguel Guerra - comic book artists previously on Artistic Finance:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/zBOzS1WTeoRrrdZsF68k
Link to the outtakes from the interview:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/67-publishing-55704373?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copy_to_clipboard&utm_campaign=postshare
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Aug 29, 2021
Sunday Aug 29, 2021
Can anyone beat the market? More specifically, did we beat the market? Photographer Marc Santos joins us for an review of the investments we made for the Artistic Finance 6k - our self designed index fund.
May 5, 2021 we invested in stocks, REITs, cryptocurrency, and wine. This is a check in three months later to compare them to the market.
Affiliate links:
M1 Finance - Good for Long Term / Buy and Hold Investors:
m1finance.8bxp97.net/XxYPZg
Coinbase - Cryptocurrency Exchange:
https://www.coinbase.com/join/steime_0
Vinovest - Wine Investing - 3 months of free wine storage:
https://app.vinovest.co?grsf=2p0wk3
Robinhood - Free Stock Trading - Intuitive and easy to use:
https://join.robinhood.com/ethans21
We Bull - Free Stock Trading - Design for Traders - I find it difficult to navigate:
https://act.webull.com/pm/do1QnByzkAhA/a3j/inviteUs/main
Our co-host Marc Santos is now an IATSE apprentice at the Metropolitan Opera. Congratulations Marc!
Marc is a fine art photographer who specializes in dance movement. Long flowing motion blur is a hallmark of his style. Showing motion in this way allows the viewer to time travel within the image.
His work has been show in solo and group exhibitions in the United States and abroad, and is held in several private collections.
Mark Santos - Dance Photographer:
https://www.marcsantosphotography.com/
https://www.instagram.com/pixmarc/?hl=en
Enterprise Value Versus Market Cap:
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/111414/whats-difference-between-enterprise-value-and-market-capitalization.asp#:~:text=Market%20capitalization%20is%20the%20sum,weaknesses%20that%20market%20cap%20cannot.
IATSE Apprenticeship Information - the stagehands union:
https://iatselocalone.org/public/Become-a-Member/Three-Ways-to-Join
ETF - the S&P 500 index fund we hold:
IVV - iShares Core S&P 500
Stocks:
VST - Vistra Corp
LAC - Lithium Americas
TAP - Molson Coors Beverage (owners of Blue Moon)
SKLZ- Skillz
Cryptocurrency:
Bitcoin
Wine:
We own one case through Vinovest
Vinoest
Real Estate - REITS:
UBA - Urstadt Biddle Properties
SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
MGP -MGM Growth Properties
STAG - STAG Industrial
Art:
Bret Slater - Artist
https://www.bretslater.com/
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Aug 22, 2021
Sunday Aug 22, 2021
Steve Keen talks about his comic book eCONcomics that critiques mainstream economics.
Steve Keen is an Australian economist and professor emeritus at London's Kingston University. He now resides in Bangkok, Thailand and continues publishing books on economics. He wrote the bestselling book, Debunking Economics, which is a critical analysis of Neoclassical economics.
Twitter - @ProfSteveKeen
https://twitter.com/ProfSteveKeen
Steve's Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/ProfSteveKeen
eCONcomics - FREE digital version:
https://www.arkhaven.com/comics/comedy/econcomics
eCONcomics - paperback for purchase:
https://www.amazon.com/eCONcomics-Taking-Economics-Steve-Keen/dp/9527065976/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=econcomics&qid=1628788007&s=books&sr=1-1
Debunking Economics - Artistic Finance affiliate link to independant booksellers:
www.indiebound.org/search/book?keys=debunking%20economics
Monet's Cathedral At Rouen - painting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouen_Cathedral_(Monet_series)
Salvador Dali's Madonna and Child - painting:
https://www.wikiart.org/en/salvador-dali/madonna-and-child-1947
NAIRU - Non Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/non-accelerating-rate-unemployment.asp
Reflections on the New 'Secular Stagnation Hypothesis' by Larry Summers (created the term FERIR):
https://voxeu.org/article/larry-summers-secular-stagnation
Larry Summers - economist who warns of inflation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Summers
Paul Krugman - economist who says inflation should be managed not run from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman
Phlogiston - theory on how candles burn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phlogiston_theory
Minsky Software:
https://sourceforge.net/p/minsky/home/Home/
Miguel Guerra's Artistic Finance Interview: https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/zBOzS1WTeoRrrdZsF68k
MMT Episode: https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/BQPWlJPsGNgNRK7yk1m9/MMT-Modern-Monetary-Theory-with-Miguel-Guerra
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Aug 15, 2021
Sunday Aug 15, 2021
Part two of a discussion on the finance related demands of We See You WAT, the movement calling for racial equality in American Theatre.
Listen to part 1 here:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/CVO8NDKdbdnemQajgTCF
Alaina Newell is a multi-hyphenate black, female, cisgender artist dabbling in acting, singing, directing, and writing. A recent BFA graduate, Alaina has taken her experiences from oppressive institutions and formed an artistic form of release. She created Fourth Wall, a podcast that brings on the players on both sides of the industry to investigate discrimination and bias in the theatre.
We See You WAT:
https://www.weseeyouwat.com/
List of Demands (29 page document):
https://www.weseeyouwat.com/demands
List of Demands Related To Money (list by AF):
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/CVO8NDKdbdnemQajgTCF/We-See-You-WAT-with-Alaina-Newell-Part-1-of-2
Alaina's Instagram - @alainanewell:
https://www.instagram.com/alainanewell/
Fourth Wall - Alaina's Podcast:
https://anchor.fm/fourthwall
West Side Story - Broadway Revival 2020:
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-production/west-side-story-523117
Broadway Black - Drew Shade:
https://www.broadwayblack.com/author/admin/
African American Hair & Makeup - Bridging The Gap In Theatre:
https://bridgingthegapintheatre.com/
Jerrilyn Lanier Duckworth on Artistic Finance:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/qlngnlv91ML3rSlGOsbf/Bridging-the-Gap-in-Theatre-with-Jerrilyn-Lanier-Duckworth
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Aug 08, 2021
Sunday Aug 08, 2021
Learn how to produce musical cabarets with NYC cabaret producer Rob Schneider.
Robert W. Schneider is one of the leading cabaret producers and directors in New York City, primarily associated with Feinstein's/54 Below, which The New York Times has called "Broadway's Living Room." At 54 Below he has produced over fifty cabarets.
As a director, Robert has worked with such theatres as Center Theatre Group, Walnut Street Theatre, Manhattan Theater Club, York Theatre, Second Stage Theatre, and Lincoln Center Theater, as well as for PBS and Fox Seachlight. His directorial work has been acknowledged with the Ovation Award, BroadwayWorld Award, and he was nominated for BroadwayWorld's Best Director of the Decade.
Robert is the Artistic Director of The J2 Spotlight Musical Theater Company that does full productions of neglected works from the past. In addition to that, Robert is the co-host of the podcasts Behind The Curtain: Broadway's Living Legends, Gay Card Revoked, and the soon to be launched This Was A Thing.
Rob's website:
https://www.robertwschneiderdirector.com/bio
Behind The Curtain - Broadway's Living Legends:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-curtain-broadways-living-legends-podcast/id1080144159
Feinstein's 54 Below - NYC Cabaret where Rob has produced 70+ shows:
https://54below.com/
Our Town - play:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Town
Company - musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_(musical)
Nathan Brewer - musical theatre director who knows a lot about old Broadway musicals:
https://nathanbrewer.net/
Patti Lupone - Broadway performer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patti_LuPone
Marilyn Maye - cabaret performer:
https://www.marilynmaye.com/mobile/index.aspx
No Strings - Forgotten Broadway musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Strings
Seesaw - Forgotten Broadway Musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seesaw_(musical)
Green Room 42 - NYC Cabaret Space:
https://www.greenfignyc.com/#the-green-room-42
The Cutting Room - NYC Cabaret Space:
http://thecuttingroomnyc.com/
Don't Tell Mama - NYC Cabaret Space:
https://www.donttellmamanyc.com/
The Duplex - NYC Cabaret Space:
https://www.theduplex.com/site/cabaret-theatre
The Producer's Club:
https://producersclub.com/
Birdland - NYC Jazz Club:
https://birdlandjazz.com/history/
Rocky Paterra - Cabaret Parody Comedian:
https://www.instagram.com/rockypaterra/?hl=en
Roger Miller - Country Western Composer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Miller
Rockabye Hamlet - musical version of Hamlet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockabye_Hamlet
BMI - Music Rights Management:
https://www.bmi.com/
ASCAP - Music Rights Management:
https://www.ascap.com/
Harry Shearer - called out Rob on Twitter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Shearer
Gobo - lighting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobo_(lighting)
Ken Billington - Broadway lighting designer:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/VGQZlvyQFnMeL1pRA5OB
Links from the Patron Episode:
John Lee Beatty - Broadway set designer:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/OpgExflo4ya6zwKeU8k1
Ain't Misbehavin' - musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ain%27t_Misbehavin%27_(musical)
Golden Rainbow - musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rainbow_(musical)
Johnny Mercer - musical composer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Mercer
The Bandstand - musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandstand_(musical)
J2 Spotlight - Off Broadway musical company where Rob is Artistic Director:
https://www.j2spotlightnyc.com/
Roger Miller Museum - closed in 2017:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Miller_Museum
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Aug 01, 2021
Sunday Aug 01, 2021
We check in with lawyer and magician Sara Crasson to find out how Flavors of Magic is turning from a virtual event into an in-person magic show.
Listen to part 1 here:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/RhWVzltRlefhFAL9ut6e/How-To-Produce-A-Magic-Show-with-Sara-Crasson-Part-1-of-4
Links from the episode:
Flavors of Magic - Free Virtual Shows and soon-to-be LIVE Shows:
www.flavorsofmagic.com
Sara Crasson Instagram @magicianatlaw:
https://www.instagram.com/magicianatlaw/?hl=en
RJ The Magician:
https://www.rjsmagic.com/
Eric Walton - Mind Reader and Magician:
https://www.ericwalton.com/'
David Copperfield - Illusionist (who is welcome on the show anytime!):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copperfield_(illusionist)
The Russian Samovar - Venue for Flavors--Live!
https://www.russiansamovar.com/
Darren Brown:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFjYOyCdMxbt59vZNuqBpw
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Jul 25, 2021
Sunday Jul 25, 2021
A discussion on the finance related demands of We See You WAT, the movement calling for racial equality in American Theatre. In June 2020 they published a list of demands for making American Theatre more equitable. Theatre artist Alaina Newell joins us for the first of two episodes discussing each finance related demand. Some are free or inexpensive, which theatre companies of any size can accommodate. Others require a bit of money and are aimed at bigger theatre companies and commercial productions including Broadway.
Alaina Newell is a multi-hyphenate black, female, cisgender artist dabbling in acting, singing, directing, and writing. A recent BFA graduate, Alaina has taken her experiences from oppressive institutions and formed an artistic form of release. She created Fourth Wall, a podcast that brings on the players on both sides of the industry to investigate discrimination and bias in the theatre.
We See You WAT:
https://www.weseeyouwat.com/
List of Demands (29 page document):
https://www.weseeyouwat.com/demands
List of Demands Related To Money (list by AF):
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/CVO8NDKdbdnemQajgTCF/We-See-You-WAT-with-Alaina-Newell-Part-1-of-2
Alaina's Instagram - @alainanewell:
https://www.instagram.com/alainanewell/
Fourth Wall - Alaina's Podcast:
https://anchor.fm/fourthwall
Lift The Curtain - End Unpaid Arts Internships:
https://www.facebook.com/Lift.The.Curtain.End.Unpaid/
Williamstown Apprentice Drama:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2021-07-20/williamstown-theatre-festival-sound-crew-walks-out
Stop Clause - Beetlejuice vs. Music Man and Scott Rudin:
https://broadwaynews.com/2019/12/16/beetlejuice-brings-attention-to-broadways-stop-clause/#:~:text=The%20stop%20clause%20has%20been,leave%20its%20theater%20in%20June.
August Wilson:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Wilson
Anything Goes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anything_Goes
Choir Boy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choir_Boy
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Monday Jul 19, 2021
Monday Jul 19, 2021
Lawyer and magician Sara Crasson talks about Flavors of Magic, the virtual magic show she created in 2020 to highlight the diversity of the magic community. This is the first of four episodes following Flavors of Magic as it develops from a virtual event to an in-person live production.
Sara is a Law Clerk to a New York State Supreme Court Justice. Previously she worked in private practice at Mintz Levin and the Pillsbury law firm covering intellectual property disputes.
Sara is the official “Resourceress” of the Society of American Magicians (S.A.M.), the world’s oldest international magicians’ organization, and sits on their Ethics Committee. Sara also produces “Flavors of Magic,” a show that highlights the diversity of the magic community.
Sara is the author of Own Your Magic: A Magician’s Guide to Protecting Your Intellectual Property. The New York Law Journal called her “the leading authority on how IP law applies to magic.”
Links from the episode:
Flavors of Magic - Free Virtual Shows and soon-to-be LIVE Shows:
www.flavorsofmagic.com
Sara Crasson Instagram @magicianatlaw:
https://www.instagram.com/magicianatlaw/?hl=en
College of Magic - Capetown, South Africa:
https://www.collegeofmagic.com/
Omar Olusion - Flavors Creative Team:
https://omarolusion.com/
Rogue - Flavors Creative Team:
https://www.roguethemagician.com/
Eve of Destruction - One of Sara's Favorite Events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu3qDFSMpfg&ab_channel=JohnDiMartino
The Tank:
https://thetanknyc.org/
Brown Paper Tickets:
https://www.brownpapertickets.com/browse.html
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Jul 11, 2021
Sunday Jul 11, 2021
Diversification within a financial portfolio with lighting designer David Martin Jacques. He explains how his portfolio allocation has changed over time as he’s gone from freelancing to becoming a theatre professor.
David has been designing lighting, sets, and projections for the past 40 years. His work spans across Europe, Asia, South America, Scandinavia, and North America. David has designed at venues such as The Royal Opera House, Teatro alla Scala, The English National Opera, The Lyric Opera of Chicago, and The National Theatre of Tokyo.
David served as lighting consultant for Disney Creative Entertainment where he helped design many attractions for Disney Orlando, Euro-Disney, Epcot, and MGM.
In 2017, David, along with fellow lighting educators Steve Woods (SMU) and Stan Kaye (University of Florida) created the popular weekly podcast "LIGHT TALK with The Lumen Brothers".
Light Talk website:
http://www.lighttalk.org/
David's Website:
https://web.csulb.edu/~djacques/
Diversification Definition:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/diversification.asp
CalPERS - California Public Retirement Fund:
https://www.calpers.ca.gov/
ETF versus Mutual Fund:
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/exchangetradedfunds/08/etf-mutual-fund-difference.asp
Real Estate Investing - Including REITs:
https://www.investopedia.com/mortgage/real-estate-investing-guide/
Diversifying with Commodities:
https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0412/the-3-best-commodities-to-invest-in.aspx
Reverse Mortgages:
https://www.investopedia.com/mortgage/reverse-mortgage/5-signs-reverse-mortgage-bad-idea/
Tesla Share Price:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/
Fidelity - Financial Advisors:
https://www.fidelity.com/
Schwab - Financial Advisors:
https://www.schwab.com/
How To Pay Zero Taxes:
https://www.indiebound.org/search/book?keys=how%20to%20pay%20zero%20taxes
(This is our affiliate link at independent bookstores.)
Patron only episodes:
Van Gogh virtual show:
https://www.afar.com/magazine/where-to-see-immersive-van-gogh-exhibits-in-the-us-in-2021
Monet - Painter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Monet
Musee de l'Orangerie - Monet's Water Lilies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_de_l'Orangerie
Musee d'Orsay - Has many Monet Paintings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_d'Orsay
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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Sunday Jun 27, 2021
Sunday Jun 27, 2021
An interview with Jim Jimirro about his time as CEO of Walt Disney Home Video, creating the Disney Channel, and taking his own media company, J2 Communications, public. We discuss his purchase of the National Lampoon brand, his love of the Great American Songbook, and his newest endeavor producing musicals off Broadway.
Jim is a voting member of the Oscars and for ten years was a chairman for the Grammys. He lectures on the Great American Songbook at the Beverly Hills Public Library and the 92nd Street Y in NYC. This series in the subject of the documentary "Jim J's Jukebox."
Jim's Website and full Bio:
https://jimirro.com/about-jim/
J2 Spotlight - Off Broadway Musical Revivals:
https://www.j2spotlightnyc.com/
History of The Disney Channel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Channel
History of Walt Disney Home Video:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_Studios_Home_Entertainment
Walt Disney Co Stock Price - DIS:
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/DIS:US
History of National Lampoon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Lampoon_(magazine)#:~:text=National%20Lampoon%20was%20an%20American,on%20American%20humor%20and%20comedy.
National Lampoon Inc. Stock - NLMP:
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/NLMP:US
A Class Act - Musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Class_Act
No Strings - Musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Strings
Seesaw:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seesaw_(musical)
The Baker's Wife:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baker%27s_Wife
A Day In Hollywood / A Night in the Ukraine:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_Hollywood_/_A_Night_in_the_Ukraine
Links from the patron episode:
West Side Story - 2020 Broadway Revival:
https://westsidestorybway.com/
Scott Rudin:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/everyone-just-knows-hes-an-absolute-monster-scott-rudins-ex-staffers-speak-out-on-abusive-behavior-4161883/
Big River - The Huckleberry Finn Musical:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_River_(musical)
A Christmas Carol on Broadway (2019):
https://www.achristmascarolbroadway.com/
A Christmas Carol musical by Steve Allen:
http://www.steveallen.com/FAQ/AChristmasCarol.htm
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Interview by Ethan Steimel
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