Artistic Finance
Artistic Finance provides theatre makers with honest, no-pretension insights into managing money in the entertainment industry. Hosted by lighting designer Ethan Steimel, this podcast delves into the personal finance challenges and business realities of show business, offering candid advice and practical tools tailored to creatives working behind the scenes. https://www.artisticfinance.com/
Episodes

Sunday Jul 03, 2022
Sunday Jul 03, 2022
Tatlong Pinoy freelancer artists mula Manila at New York ang nagbahagi ng kanilang payong pampinansyal.
Ang episode na ito ay kasama ang aktor na si Jamie Wilson, Stage Manager na si Sheryl Polancos at Lighting Designer, Cha See.
⭐️ Paano nila nalampasan ang pandemyang covid?
⭐️ Paano nila nagawang matustusan ang kanilang mga pangangailgan at paano sila nakahanap ng dagdag o bagong trabaho?
⭐️ Paano nakatulong ang organisasyong See Lighting Foundation sa mga imigranteng naninirahan sa US sa panahon ng covid?
Thank you to Sheryl Polancos for help with translations!
Video Version:
https://youtu.be/txjd4t7ReJQ
Sheryl Polancos - Instagram @sherylpolancos:
https://www.instagram.com/sherylpolancos/
Cha See - Instagram @seethruuu:
https://www.instagram.com/seethruuu/
Jamie Esteva Wilson - Instagram @jetboyboogie:
https://www.instagram.com/jetboyboogie/
See Lighting Foundation - Instagram @seelightingfoundation:
https://www.instagram.com/seelightingfoundation/?hl=en
Atlantis Theatrical Entertainment Group:
http://atlantistheatrical.com/about
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www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
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Interview with Ethan Steimel, Jamie Esteva Wilson, Sheryl Polancos, and Cha See

Sunday Jun 26, 2022
Sunday Jun 26, 2022
Results from our listener survey.
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Retirement Calculator:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/investing/retirement-calculator
Patreon Bonus Episode:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/68298000
Previous Episodes Mentioned:
Credit Card Rewards:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/3yhjl5EJSaw25HNh8lZ6/Credit-Card-Rewards-with-John-Adcox
Starbucks Rewards:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/zni9hPScDW1bsrX1xtrj/Free-Coffee-The-Secret-Starbucks-Code-A-Fathers-Day-Special
Fossil Fuel Free Investing:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/IRnAJ8INwHG1UxYlGT7W/Fossil-Fuel-Free-Investing-with-Alex-Wright-Gladstein
Ethical Investing:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/axDYFWfytfnYqcp5W53Q/Ethical-Investing-with-Chris-Lose

Sunday Jun 19, 2022
Sunday Jun 19, 2022
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Broadway musician turned financial advisor, Eli Zoller, joins the show to talk about his career change and how he is helping others.
Topics:
⭐️ Why Eli became an advisor
⭐️ Finances can be simple, but simple is not easy
⭐️ How freelancers can benefit from financial planners
⭐️ The best way to get your financial questions answered
⭐️ What the worst outcome from meeting a financial advisor.
Bonus Episode - Eli’s Favorite Broadway Show:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/67907393
Takeaways:
⭐️ "In the red” means debt
⭐️ “In the black" means profit
⭐️ Be proactive and engage your friends with questions
⭐️ Uncertain future income is a great reason to make a financial plan.
⭐️ The bare minimum mindset to meet with an advisor is if you are thinking about your finances past the next month.
⭐️ Empathy from an advisor is nice, especially when an artists has to explain how they make money (or don't make money)
Eli Zoller - Northwestern Mutual:
https://www.northwesternmutual.com/financial/advisor/eli-zoller/
Eli Zoller - LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/eli-zoller-he-him-510aa0b/
FREE Lighting Templates - from Andy Lowe:
https://lowe.lighting/pages/free-lighting-list-template
Black Dog Symbolism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_dog_(folklore)#:~:text=It%20is%20usually%20unnaturally%20large,sometimes%20an%20omen%20of%20death.
Previous Episodes:
The Ultimate Guide To Finding A Financial Advisor - with Matt Kweller - Part 1:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/0ohg2xoxT0AntRkaFFSV/The-Ultimate-Guide-to-Finding-a-Financial-Advisor-Part-1-of-2
The Ultimate Guide To Finding A Financial Advisor - with Matt Kweller - Part 2:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/7IhoHpYQUMa18zlnpCYK/The-Ultimate-Guide-to-Finding-a-Financial-Advisor-with-Matt-Kweller-Part-2-of-2
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday Jun 12, 2022
Sunday Jun 12, 2022
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We celebrate Father’s Day with Nicole’s parents and to learn how they use the Starbucks reward program.
We discuss:
⭐️ Cost savings of a refillable cup
⭐️ Sharing accounts to maximize points
⭐️ Clipping coupons BEFORE the internet
Our bonus episode is a story about Ethan getting a birthday drink from the Taco Bell rewards program.
Bonus Episode:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/67140618
Takeaways:
⭐️ Be on the lookout for double point days once a month.
⭐️ Don’t unsubscribe from the Starbucks emails. They tell you how to get extra points.
⭐️ Make the free drink as large as possible because a small or large use the same amount of points.
⭐️ Finances are simple, but being disciplined and dealing with day to day life isn’t easy.
Starbucks Points Explained:
https://querysprout.com/how-do-starbucks-rewards-work/Starbucks Reusable Cup Policy:
https://customerservice.starbucks.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6847/~/what-is-the-reusable-cup-benefit-for-starbucks-reward-members%3F
S&H Green Coupon Book:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26H_Green_Stamps
Other Finance & Art Podcasts:
https://www.artworkarchive.com/blog/7-essential-podcasts-for-artists
Schnucks -Grocery Chain in St. Louis:
https://theproducenews.com/schnucks-named-us-best-managed-company-list
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Nicole Steimel, Ethan Steimel

Tuesday Jun 07, 2022
Tuesday Jun 07, 2022
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Brooklyn-based painter Bret Slater joins the podcast to discuss the business of painting. He explains how he learned to price his art and work with galleries in New York and Europe.
We discuss:
⭐️ How to price art
⭐️ Why you must “put yourself out there”
⭐️ What percentage a gallery takes when selling an artwork
⭐️ The importance of professional connections and relationships
⭐️ How Bret first got his art into galleries, and continues to show in galleries in New York and Europe.
In the patreon bonus episode, we discuss:
⭐️ Bret's art influences
⭐️ Bret’s thoughts on NFTs
⭐️ Taxes when selling through a gallery
⭐️ His decision process for grad school
⭐️ Bret’s finance changes when he got married
⭐️ How Nicole and I have obtained three Bret Slater paintings
Bret Slater:
https://www.instagram.com/bretslater/
https://www.bretslater.com/
Bret's "Lore" at the Dallas Museum:
https://collections.dma.org/artwork/5336425
Chocolate Gnome - by Dieter Roth:
https://www.slam.org/collection/objects/42330/
Antiquated Mechanism - Commission:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/61516832
New American Paintings:
https://www.newamericanpaintings.com/competitions
Otis Jones - Painter:
https://www.otisjones.net/images/1
Ron Gorchov - Painter:
https://www.artsy.net/artist/ron-gorchov
Vic Muniz - Artist:
https://vikmuniz.net/
How To Price Art - If You Don't Have A Gallerist:
https://www.artworkarchive.com/blog/how-to-price-consistently-for-art-sales-success
Patron Bonus Episode:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/102-bret-slater-67452444
Jim Lee - Painter who influenced Bret:
http://www.artnet.com/artists/jim-lee-2/
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Nicole Steimel, Ethan Steimel

Sunday May 29, 2022
Sunday May 29, 2022
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Sheryl Polancos, a stage manager from Broadway’s Beetlejuice, joins the show to talk about working ten years in the Philippines as a freelance stage manager. She then moved to NYC to continue freelancing in theatre off-Broadway and then on Broadway.
We discuss:
⭐️ How to afford an apartment in NYC
⭐️ How to get an artist visa and green card
⭐️ A bad luck superstition involving peanuts
⭐️ Saving for yourself and your own retirement
⭐️ Differences between theatre in the US versus the Philippines
In today’s patron bonus episode we discuss another Beetlejuice stage manager, Steve Milosevich, who Sheryl and I both adore.
Bonus Episode:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/101-sheryl-66835796
Takeaways:
⭐️ Be specific
⭐️ Be proactive
⭐️ Moving is costly
⭐️ Save for yourself each month and INVEST
Artistic Finance 6k Investing Special:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/zsaAmuJv8vulf6qc0fqq/Learn-How-To-Invest-In-The-Stock-Market-Artistic-Finance-6K-Special
Choosing 401k investments:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/mI0ij00LoT4VAsrgRMxV/Choosing-401k-Options-with-Elena-Sartor
Wine Investing:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/G7sKrzcmEwJeor6iAy4t/Wine-Investing-with-Anthony-Zhang
Sheryl Polancos on Instagram:
@sherylpolancos
https://www.instagram.com/sherylpolancos/
Sheryl Polancos - Filipino Theatre Artists in America:
https://www.filipinotheatreartistsinamerica.com/copy-of-karla-puno-garcia
Atlantis Theatrical - Producer of Rock of Ages in Manila:
http://atlantistheatrical.com/shows
Beetlejuice:
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-production/beetlejuice-532410
Jersey Boys:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Boys
Soho Rep:
https://sohorep.org/
Porsche McGovern:
https://www.patreon.com/porsche/
Links from the Patron episode:
Stephen Milosevich:
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/stephen-milosevich-506579
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Sunday May 22, 2022
Sunday May 22, 2022
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How to advocate for your own financial wellness with freelance theatre designer Carl Faber.
Topics:
⭐️ Include a cover page in your will
⭐️ Financial plans are not intimidating
⭐️ Easy way to get a picture of your finances
⭐️ Ethan learns something new about ROTH IRAs
We revisit past topics:
⭐️ I-Bonds yielding 10%
⭐️ Dave Ramsey is the Dunkin' of finance
⭐️ LinkedIn for entertainment professionals
THANK YOU, PATRONS!
Because of your support, Artistic Finance has provided 100% FREE resources.
⭐️ 125+ hours of content
⭐️ Helped artists with taxes, IRAs, & investing
⭐️ Given $1,000+ to artists and arts organizations
Access the bonus episode at:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/100-be-your-own-66291238
Bonus Episode Topics:
⭐️ Bonds
⭐️ Reverse budgeting
⭐️ Advice for young theatre designers
Takeaways from the episode:
⭐️ PersonalCapital.com is an easy and free to see your financial picture
⭐️ Add a letter of instruction to your will
⭐️ Financial plans can be easy - your financial life is also your life.
⭐️ ROTH IRA matching can incentivize young people to start investing
Carl’s Website:
https://carlfaber.com/
Carl’s LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlfaber/
Carl’s Used EV Article:
https://typefully.com/cxfaber/UOp2kz6
Personal Capital - free personal finance website - like Mint but more customizable:
https://www.personalcapital.com/
Using HELOC as Emergency Fund:
https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/04/22/springy-debt-instead-of-a-cash-cushion/
“My Friends” by Taro Gomi:
https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/9780811812375
Recommended:
Bogleheads Forum: https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/index.php
Knowledge Project Podcast: https://fs.blog/knowledge-project-podcast/
Just Enjoy It While You Can: https://eringloriaryan.bulletin.com
Past Episodes:
LinkedIn:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/mdlEKmyKcDXevmphIQg8/LinkedIn-for-Artists-with-Dawn-Chiang
Dave Ramsey:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/iORe0bxkXkq2bLq3MWgX/Dave-Ramsey-Financial-Advice-with-Greg-Ludlow
Bonds Investing:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/Ls2svcghok0FemQVcNBp/Bond-Investing-with-Maithreyi-Gopalakrishnan
Credit Cards 1:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/sHzGdIBq188DTPlNpJuq/Credit-Card-Debt-with-Joe-Longthorne
Credit Cards 2:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/q4rn0omyiRhlNCPQATcs/Credit-Card-Habits-with-Tony-Johnson
Credit Cards 3:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/nLk98PU9fuN6iQn6VUp0/Credit-Card-Advantages-with-Marc-Santos

Sunday May 15, 2022
Sunday May 15, 2022
Learn how to maximize your credit card points with financial analyst John Adcox.
Topics:
⭐️ How to transfer points
⭐️ Loyalty to a brand is beneficial
⭐️ Evaluating the annual fee versus the benefits
⭐️ Maximize earnings - always earn more than 1%
⭐️ Buying gift cards if they yield higher than the product
⭐️ Maximizing spending - transfer points to other rewards programs
⭐️ Transfer statuses between programs, even if points don’t transfer
Takeaways:
⭐️ Transfering is easy and happens online
⭐️ A $550 annual fee can easily be worth it
⭐️ Credit card rewards can be used responsibly
⭐️ Using points for travel is way better than cash back
⭐️ Any lifestyle can take advantage of credit card points
Bonus Episode - Worst Travel Story Ever:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/99-credit-card-66210669
John Adcox:
@pitcher_perfect_travel on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/pitcher_perfect_travel/
Travel Rewards Guide - link from Carl Faber:
https://www.choosefi.com/travel-rewards-101-ultimate-guide-to-travel-rewards-part-1/
Company we used for traveling to the Galapagos:
https://www.adventuresmithexplorations.com/
Previous Credit Card Episodes:
Credit Card Advantages - with Marc Santos:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/nLk98PU9fuN6iQn6VUp0/Credit-Card-Advantages-with-Marc-Santos
Credit Card Habits - with Tony Johnson:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/q4rn0omyiRhlNCPQATcs/Credit-Card-Habits-with-Tony-Johnson
Credit Card Debt - with Joe Longthorne:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/sHzGdIBq188DTPlNpJuq/Credit-Card-Debt-with-Joe-Longthorne
Link From The Bonus Episode:
Aryn Adcox:
@arynadcox on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/arynadcox/
Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Nicole Steimel, Ethan Steimel

Sunday May 08, 2022
Sunday May 08, 2022
A year end review of the Artistic Finance 6k--our $6,000 investment. We’ve gathered a bond investment CEO, a data analyst, and two lighting designers to compare how our investments compare to the market (aka the S&P 500).
We discuss:
⭐️ The current shaky market
⭐️ Holding investments for a year
⭐️ Next steps for this investment experiment
Takeaways:
⭐️ Ethan is going to HOLD all investments
⭐️ Ethan needs to reinvest the $56 REIT dividends
⭐️ We will have 3 other investments to track - one is I-Bonds
⭐️ All guests are roughly mid 30s. Thoughts might be different if we were mid 20s or mid 60s.
The Artistic Finance Investment Strategy:
⭐️ Half high risk
⭐️ Half dividends
⭐️ Money that can be lost
⭐️ Diversified asset classes
⭐️ Only sell one year and one day after purchase
⭐️ Choose based on what smarter investors are choosing
Our superstar guest panel is:
⭐️ Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan, CEO of LidquidiFi
⭐️ Ebony Madry, lighting designer and project manager
⭐️ Katie Buhrman, a leader in data and analytics
Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan - CEO of LiquidiFi:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maithreyi-gopalakrishnan/
maithreyi@liquidificorp.com
Ebony Madry - Lighting Designer & Project Manager:
@ebmadry on Instagram
https://www.ebmadry.com/
Katie Buhrman - Data Analyst:
@ktbuhr on Instagram
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherinebuhrman/
https://brokercheck.finra.org/individual/summary/6520240
Ethan Steimel - Lighting Designer:
@artisticfinance on Instagram
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethansteimel/
Previous Episodes of Interest:
Cryptocurrency with Najah Roberts:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/JM5QCXLUhsqOfRDC8Dd2/Cryptocurrency-Bitcoin-with-Najah-Roberts
Bond Investing - aka I-Bonds - with Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/Ls2svcghok0FemQVcNBp/Bond-Investing-with-Maithreyi-Gopalakrishnan
Wine Investing with Anthony Zhang:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/G7sKrzcmEwJeor6iAy4t/Wine-Investing-with-Anthony-Zhang
Affiliate links:
M1 Finance - Good for Long Term / Buy and Hold Investors - I don't think there is a sign up incentive:
m1finance.8bxp97.net/XxYPZg
Coinbase - Cryptocurrency Exchange - $10 of Bitcoin:
https://www.coinbase.com/join/steime_0
Vinovest - Wine Investing - 3 months of free wine storage:
https://app.vinovest.co?grsf=2p0wk3
Robinhood - Stock Trading - Intuitive and easy to use - Free Stock On Signup:
https://join.robinhood.com/ethans21
We Bull - Free Stock Trading - Design for Traders - I find it difficult to navigate - 5 Free Stocks on Signup:
https://act.webull.com/pm/do1QnByzkAhA/a3j/inviteUs/main
ETF - the S&P 500 index fund we hold:
IVV - iShares Core S&P 500
Stocks:
VST - Vistra Corp
LAC - Lithium Americas
TAP - Molson Coors Beverage (owners of Blue Moon)
SKLZ- Skillz
Cryptocurrency:
Bitcoin
Wine:
We own one case through Vinovest
Vinovest
Real Estate - REITS:
UBA - Urstadt Biddle Properties
SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
VICI - Experiential Real Estate - Previously MGM Properties
STAG - STAG Industrial
Art:
Bret Slater - Artist
https://www.bretslater.com/
Photos of the Painting:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/64295618
Full story of commissioning the piece - only accessible to patrons:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/61516832
Ian Dunlap - The Investor Ethan follows:
https://linktr.ee/themasterinvestor
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Become a patron:
www.patreon.com/artisticfinance
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Monday May 02, 2022
Monday May 02, 2022
Choreographer Melissa Riker joins the show to discuss running a non profit dance company in Seattle and New York City.
Topics:
⭐️ Melissa's IRS audit
⭐️ Paying dancers 1099 or W2
⭐️ Writing and applying for grants
⭐️ Financially responsible. Artistically wild.
⭐️ Cost of public permits versus renting a venue
⭐️ Arts grants via city funding and federal funding
⭐️ To become a non profit or partner with a fiscal sponsor
In the bonus episode:
⭐️ Paying freelancers in a timely manner
Bonus Episode:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/65884179
Kinesis Project Dance Theatre:
https://www.kinesisproject.com/
Melissa Riker:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mriker/
Zoe | Juniper:
https://zoejuniper.org/
Celeste Cooning - Visual Artist:
https://www.celestecooning.com/
Netta Yerushalmy - Choreographer:
https://www.nettay.com/
Fractured Atlas - Fiscal Sponsor:
https://www.fracturedatlas.org/fiscal-sponsorship
The Field - Fiscal Sponsor:
https://www.thefield.org/fiscal-sponsorship-for-artists/
Broadway Grosses:
https://www.broadwayworld.com/grosses.cfm
Bond Investing:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/Ls2svcghok0FemQVcNBp/Bond-Investing-with-Maithreyi-Gopalakrishnan
Caite Henver - Projection Design of Kristina Wong, Sweatshop Overlord:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/aPgbdZm90cIzyISPGXvN/Caite-Hevner-Projection-Designer
Lap Chi Chu - Lighting Designer of Morning Sun:
https://www.artisticfinance.com/episode/a28i0vVANKirBQ1nR324/Lap-Chi-Chu-Lighting-Designer
Patreon - Kinesis Project:
https://www.patreon.com/kinesisproject
Links from the patron bonus episode:
Brooklyn Navy Yard
https://brooklynnavyyard.org/
Interview by Ethan Steimel
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