Artistic Finance

Artistic Finance provides theatre makers with honest, no-pretension insights into managing money in the entertainment industry. Hosted by lighting designer Ethan Steimel, this podcast delves into the personal finance challenges and business realities of show business, offering candid advice and practical tools tailored to creatives working behind the scenes. https://www.artisticfinance.com/

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Episodes

7 days ago


An update on the $6,000 of investments we made in May of 2021.
 
Four lighting designers and a bond investment CEO review how our investments compare to the S&P 500.
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/_hiXSC5HY6A
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
False Steps: A Ballroom Comedy
https://www.falsestepscomedy.com/
 
ETFs:
IVV - iShares Core S&P 500
 
Stocks:
VST - Vistra Corp
LAC - Lithium Americas
TAP - Molson Coors Beverage (owners of Blue Moon)
SKLZ- Skillz
 
Cryptocurrency:
Bitcoin
 
Wine:
Vinovest
 
Real Estate - REITS:
REG - Regency Centers Corp -Previously UBA
SRG - Seritage Growth Properties
VICI - Experiential Real Estate - Previously MGM Properties
STAG - STAG Industrial
 
Art:
Bret Slater - Artist
https://www.bretslater.com/ 
https://www.patreon.com/posts/64295618
 
VTSAX - Total USA Stock Market Index Fund
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/VTSAX/
 
Coinbase - COIN
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/COIN/
 
Masterworks
https://www.masterworks.com/
 
Bridget Riley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_Riley
 
Kroger - KR
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/KR/
 
Nvidia - NVDA
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NVDA/
 
Daktronics - DAKT
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/DAKT/
 
Maithreyi Gopalakrishnan:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maithreyi-gopalakrishnan/
https://www.liquidificorp.com/
 
Ebony Madry:
https://www.instagram.com/ebmadry/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebony-madry-6a9651139/
 
Amy D Lux:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-d-lux-953a7318a/
https://utopiadreamscape.com/author/luvlogica/
 
Gary Archer
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-archer-31482933/
https://www.instagram.com/lightdesign2020/
 
Ethan Steimel
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethansteimel/
https://www.instagram.com/artisticfinance/?hl=en
 
Instagram Handles
@ebmadry
@liquidifi
@officialamydlux
@lightdesign2020
@ethansteimel
@artisticfinance
 

Wednesday May 28, 2025

Set designer Vincent Gunn talks about the benefits of tracking the hours that you work.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Valuing your time 
⭐️ Investing the money in your retirement account
⭐️ Writing things down and getting them out of your head
⭐️ Designers thinking about work even when they’re not at work
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/g1BZrnh3l7A
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Vincent Gunn
https://www.vincentgunn.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-gunn-3a45aab2/
https://www.instagram.com/vincentgunndesign/?hl=en
 
Hours Tracker
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P-ujmcgDcdZYxW78hqBa3HgiBdlI0gGK0LGG2RoNZqw/edit?usp=sharing
 
NEA Budget Cut Tracker
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cHCTXssMWuMweRLUjGQKtsck_rg7v4tMg7cpfzDQil8/htmlview?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaeulUJ--0GngJ37kmfk-9enz2w9TczbBkJ8hs4U-ZuBgeaGYyF4TCzLnnQi4Q_aem_6SEys-aWiD8H-wxOGseuWw%23gid%3D0
 
Liability Insurance for Lighting Folx
https://www.artisticfinance.com/136.html
 
Liability Insurance for Performers
https://www.artisticfinance.com/141.html
 
Vincent (he/him) is a New Jersey based Scenic Designer. He has designed shows for various theatre companies in the New York area and beyond including York Theatre Company, Centenary Stage Company, Vanguard Theater Company, St. Bart's Players, Stella Adler Studio of Acting, Post Theatre Company, the Metropolitan Playhouse, the New London Barn Playhouse, and various educational venues. He has assisted designers on productions at venues such as The New York Philharmonic, LABrynth Theater Company, Irish Repertory Theatre, Jazz at Lincoln Center, Roundabout Black Box, BAM Fisher, La Mama ETC and INTAR. Vincent has a B.A. in Theatre Design and Production from Fordham University. vincentgunn.com @vincentgunndesign
 
Instagram Handles
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
@vincentgunndesign
 

Tuesday May 20, 2025

TheatrIcal lighting designer Jason Lynch talks about freelancing in Chicago. 
 
Topics:
⭐️ LLCs
⭐️ Estate Sales
⭐️ Keeping our humanity
⭐️ Investing in the S&P 500
⭐️ Some of Jason’s recent design fees
⭐️ Moving to a big theatre city, that’s not New York
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/y5PApxbBG_I
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Jason Lynch
https://www.jasondlynch.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasondlynch/
https://www.instagram.com/jasonlynch.design/
 
Vehicle Expenses Tracker
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kDb48wLKWWnkGigyu52tYYGWRHDV2h-Ai7AizNCrtb8/edit?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZh7dkkg9Htl1oE4M46Emo-Cw8yEahk7n90sRBCDy5R32W5D1xbTHSjvYI_aem_adKVVnGYaIN_xPS6bS21wQ&gid=1052323773#gid=1052323773
 
IRS.gov
https://www.irs.gov/
 
Lynn Nottage - "Why I'll Never Make It" Interview
https://broadwaypodcastnetwork.com/podcasts/why-i-ll-never-make-it/lynn-nottage-writes-through-some-of-life-s-hardest-moments/366
 
SPY
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SPY/
 
Arrived - Real Estate Investing
https://arrived.com/
 
Lofty - Real Estate Investing
https://www.lofty.ai/
 
OSF - Oregon Shakespeare Festival
https://www.osfashland.org/
 
Indiana Rep
https://www.irtlive.com/
 
Estate Sales
https://www.estatesales.net/
 
JASON LYNCH is a Chicago-based lighting designer for theatre, dance, opera, and other live performance art.
Regional: Alley Theatre, Alliance Theatre, Baltimore Center Stage, Berkeley Repertory Theatre, Chicago Shakespeare Theater, City Theatre Company, Dallas Theater Center, Denver Center Theatre Company, George Street Playhouse, Geva Theatre Center, Goodman Theatre, Goodspeed Musicals, Huntington Theatre Company, Indiana Repertory Theatre, Kansas City Repertory Theatre, Long Wharf Theatre, Milwaukee Repertory Theater, Northlight Theatre, Oregon Shakespeare Festival, Repertory Theatre of St. Louis, Seattle Repertory Theatre, Steppenwolf Theatre, The Old Globe, Trinity Repertory Company, among others. 
Lynch was also the recipient of the 2022 Equity Jeff Award for his work on Choir Boy at Steppenwolf Theatre and the 2019 Michael Maggio Emerging Designer Award, which recognizes emerging theatrical designers within the Chicago area. Jason is represented by United Scenic Artists, Local USA-829 of the IATSE and The Gersh Agency. jasondlynch.com, @jasonlynch.design
 
Instagram handles:
@jasonlynch.design
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
 

Wednesday May 14, 2025

Projection designer Sven Ortel talks about career finances.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Being persistent 
⭐️ Insisting you get credit for your work
⭐️ Organizing your taxes and writing it down
⭐️ Separating the production budget from the design budget
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/YDxUvU-in4U
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Sven Ortel
https://www.svenortel.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/svenortel/
https://www.instagram.com/svenortel/
 
Is the credit "Projection Design" or "Video Design?"
https://www.projctn.com/about-projection-design
 
Projection Design Costs
https://www.projctn.com/projection-design-costs
 
Trudy C Durant
https://tcdurant.com/home.aspx
 
Notion
https://www.notion.com/
 
Caite Hevner Episode
https://www.artisticfinance.com/93.html
 
Since 2000, Sven Ortel has been exploring and advancing the use of imagery and projection in the live arts. His primary interest is how digital and emerging technologies can create engaging narrative experiences. He is particularly drawn to complex scenic and production design challenges that place live audiences at the center of the experience, and he enjoys collaborating with other experts and creatives.
 
Originally from Cologne, Germany, Sven earned his BA in Lighting Design in London, where he designed media for Simon McBurney’s seminal production of *Measure for Measure* at the National Theatre in 2004. He then created many projection designs for opera, dance, musicals, and plays across Europe and eventually in the US. In 2012, he was nominated for a Tony Award for his work on Disney’s *Newsies*. In 2014, he received a Drama League nomination for his designs in Julie Taymor’s *A Midsummer Night's Dream* at the Polonsky Shakespeare Center in Brooklyn.
 
Notable recent projects include NHKS4220 at New York’s Artechouse, *Thoughts of a Colored Man* (Broadway, Drama Desk nomination), *Parade* (Broadway, Outer Critics Circle nomination and winner of Best Revival of a Musical), and *Once Upon a One More Time* (Broadway), as well as the multimedia installation *Lamentations at Liesbeck*, which premiered at Mesa’s Mix Center.
 
Sven always seeks innovative ways to tell stories through media and create cohesive visual environments that fully engage live audiences.
 
He has worked at public research universities for the past ten years, focusing on educating the next generation of designers, artists, and thought leaders. His work in academia focuses on adapting effective creative processes prevalent in the performing arts, particularly projection design, to address the design challenges found in other live experiences, especially in emerging forms of rich media like immersive and XR productions. This research is central to his role as a professor of practice in immersive and entertainment design at Arizona State University and as a faculty member at Mesa's innovative multidisciplinary Mix Center.
 
Outside of his professional work, Sven is a passionate landscaper dedicated to restoring and stewarding the land. He also loves camping, running, hiking, and mountain biking—more info at svenortel.com or linked-in.
 
Instagram Handles
@svenortel
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel

Tuesday May 06, 2025

Discussing designer pay and transparency with Broadway, Off-Broadway, and West End lighting designer Isabella Byrd. 
 
Topics:
⭐️ Dealing with the IRS
⭐️ Union pension, healthcare, and the union ledger
⭐️ Commercial theatre fees (aka Broadway) versus off-Broadway fees (aka non-profit theatre)
⭐️ CDs, as in Certificates of Deposit
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/HJ1wBWuLwKQ
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Isabella Byrd
https://www.isabellabyrd.design/
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/isabella-byrd-527907
 
Drift
https://studiodrift.com/work/drifter/
 
The Shed
https://www.theshed.org/?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwvr--BhB5EiwAd5YbXqw-o1AZJ4K0bhxLrH613ZH2yPapTv6-Lw54hGG-7dZ_7bVzULR3pBoC8hkQAvD_BwE
 
Death Sex And Money - Podcast
https://slate.com/podcasts/death-sex-money
 
Zenith American - USA 829 Benefits Hub
https://www.zenith-american.com/
 
USA 829
https://www.usa829.org/Membership-Info/Benefit-Funds
 
CD Rates - Bask Bank
https://www.baskbank.com/products/certificates-of-deposit
 
Entertainment Community Fund
https://entertainmentcommunity.org/services-and-programs/financial-wellness-0
 
In 1: The Podcast - hosted by Cory Pattak
https://in1podcast.com/
 
Instagram Handles
@isabelllaa
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel

Monday May 05, 2025

Today is the 5th anniversary of Artistic Finance. A quick thank you to mark the occasion and announcing a non-AEA casting notice for NYC!

Thursday May 01, 2025

Broadway lighting designer Beverly Emmons discusses commercial theatre practices for designers.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Adding riders onto your contract
⭐️ Theatre Law which aims to protect investors’ money
⭐️ W2 and 1099 and how that impacts copyright for designers
⭐️ The history of the theatre design union - United Scenic Artists
⭐️ Those union contracts, what they protect, and how they’re helpful for expediting theatre negotiations because so many things are spelled out already, so there isn’t need for a lot of negotiation.
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/t8rVQO00IjE
 
Extended Interviewhttps://www.patreon.com/posts/124372571
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Beverly Emmons
https://performingartslegacy.org/emmonsbeverly/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/beverly-emmons-57339135/
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/beverly-emmons-25645
 
The Lighting Archive
https://thelightingarchive.org/
 
Don Holder Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXHdU1JVmRE&t=34s
 
Ken Billington Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuojA4i6y5c
 
Jules Fisher
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/jules-fisher-7001
 
Kermit Blumgarden - producer
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/kermit-bloomgarden-14214
 
Ted Mann - producer
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/theodore-mann-15532
 
Broadway Grosses
https://www.broadwayleague.com/research/grosses-broadway-nyc/
 
Atlantic Theatre joins IATSE
https://deadline.com/2025/03/atlantic-theater-iatse-1236348882/
 
Theatre Lighting in the Age of Gas
https://archive.org/details/theatrelightingi0000rees/page/n9/mode/2up
 
Broadway Theatre Manager - Peter Bogyo
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9781621536246
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9781621536253
(affiliate link)
 
USA 829
https://www.usa829.org/
 
Instagram Handles
@bemmonsld12gmail
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel

Wednesday Mar 12, 2025

Alvin Hough Jr, who’s currently the associate music director of The Lion King on Broadway, talks about career finances and a few things about musical theatre musicians.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Dollar pizza
⭐️ Being a saver, not a spender
⭐️ Living off per diem while touring
⭐️ Rehearsal call versus a performance call
⭐️ Rates of pay for different numbers of instruments
⭐️ The differences between the piano and the keyboard
⭐️ Working a double, in musician speak, and what that means for your pay scale.
⭐️ The importance of family and Alvin investing early on, on the advice from an aunt
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/J9Gjb5o_h7E
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Alvin Hough Jr
www.alvinhoughjr.com
https://www.instagram.com/alvinhoughpiano/
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/alvin-hough-493607#broadway
 
Believe NYC
https://believe-nyc.com/
 
Arts for Autism
https://www.artsforautism.net/
 
Randy Cohen - Keyboard Programmer
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/randy-cohen-454486
 
NYMF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Musical_Theatre_Festival
 
The Lion King on Broadway
https://lionking.com/
 
Avioms - In Ear Mixing
https://www.aviom.com/AviomProducts/
 
ALVIN HOUGH, JR. Alvin is a pianist, conductor and arranger in New York City. He is currently the Associate Music Director of Disney’s The Lion King on Broadway and was the Associate Music Supervisor of Merrily We Roll Along, featuring Daniel Radcliffe, which closed this past July aEer winning the Tony for Best Revival. Alvin is the Music Supervisor of the current 2nd NaHonal Tour of Tina: The Tina Turner Musical, and he has also worked on numerous films and TV series, from “Schmigadoon 2” and “Spirited” to “Annie Live!” and the South Park 25th anniversary commercials. Classically trained by a private teacher from the age of 5, Alvin has had the privilege of performing at the Kennedy Center, the Capitol and the White House while growing up in Washington, DC. One of the more important things Alvin likes to share is that there is no special formula to end up on Broadway. As proof, even though he's currently not using them, Alvin has a Bachelor’s from Harvard College in Earth and Planetary Sciences and a Master’s in Meteorology from the Georgia InsHtute of Technology. He sends love to his wife, Rebecca, and their two young children, Samuel (7) and Camille (6). www.alvinhoughjr.com
 
Instagram Handles
@alvinhoughpiano
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel

Tuesday Mar 04, 2025

Technical director Tab Birt discusses his journey through live entertainment, financial lessons learned along the way, and his dream of trading the stage for a glass artist’s studio in Norway.
 
Topics
⭐️ Glass blowing
⭐️ Not selling yourself short
⭐️ Getting on a stagehands union call list
⭐️ Burning out, being cynical, and the joy of theatre
⭐️ The secret investment vehicle called a ROTH IRA
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/Kh9TP0Gls0s
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Tab Birt
https://www.tbirtdesign.com/
https://www.instagram.com/tbirtdesign/
 
Saints Peter & Paul - Homeless Shelter
https://www.stspeterandpaulstl.org/homeless-shelter
 
Third Degree Glass Factory
https://www.thirddegreeglassfactory.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoonESXmz4AvOFvGWqiziSPkJy_kBTC66ol4q9J4rvcuYxhm7cfN
 
Here’s What I Don’t Get
https://hereswhatidontget.com/podcast
 
Bullsh*t Jobs - David Graeber
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9781501143335
 
Debt: The First 5,000 Years - David Graeber
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9781612194196
 
David Graeber Lecture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kikzjTfos0s
 
ROTH IRA
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rothira.asp
 
Design Action - Minimum Rate Calculator
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KpsHWVKvc0FYfDftayTh1Dh2befS-oPM6_rwQ6waoVk/edit?gid=691329339#gid=691329339
 
The Lighting Archive
https://thelightingarchive.org/
 
 
Tab Birt hails from the Land of Praying Hands, Tulsa Oklahoma. He received his BFA in Lighting and Sound Design from the University of Oklahoma, and currently resides in in St Louis as the Technical Director for Edison Theatre. He’s worked in live entertainment for 17 years around the country, and when not in production you can find him in the hot shop pursuing his interest in glass, or at home sipping a fine whiskey, grilling steaks, or smoking a rich cigar. He dreams of one day retiring from theatre and becoming a glass artist in Norway.
 
Instagram Handles
@tbirtdesign
@thirddegreeglass
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
 

Wednesday Feb 26, 2025

Today’s show is an “ordinary and necessary” episode in which we learn about prepping and filing taxes for freelancer 1099 income.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Documentation matters!
⭐️ Personal expenses versus business expenses
⭐️ Tracking your expenses as you go
⭐️ Missing expenses are the number one way to pay more in taxes.
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/EJBHsud0Iis
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Aja M Jackson
https://www.ajajacksonlighting.com/
https://www.instagram.com/ajamjackson/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/aja-m-jackson
 
Farrell Parker
https://www.artisttaxprep.com/
https://www.instagram.com/artisttaxprep/?hl=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/farrell-parker-7a0aa3119/
 
Jared R Rogers, CPA
https://www.wilsonrogers.net/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredrrogerscpa/
https://www.instagram.com/wilsonrogersco/?hl=en
 
Artist Tax Prep Freelancer Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kDb48wLKWWnkGigyu52tYYGWRHDV2h-Ai7AizNCrtb8/edit?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZh7dkkg9Htl1oE4M46Emo-Cw8yEahk7n90sRBCDy5R32W5D1xbTHSjvYI_aem_adKVVnGYaIN_xPS6bS21wQ&gid=343072668#gid=343072668
 
IRS Website
https://www.irs.gov/
 
Social Security Website
https://www.ssa.gov/
 
Accountants for Creatives
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YG1sgP4LqJa6Rk5CBdnvlQ2ByEvzFNKSS6uI61QkMlY/edit?usp=sharing
 
 
AJA M JACKSON is an interdisciplinary Lighting Designer with a focus on the stage. Some credits include Off-Broadway: A Commercial Jingle for Regina Comet, and Rock and Roll Man. Broadway: Fat Ham (associate). Regional (selected): Hear Word (American Repertory Theatre / The Public Theater Under the Radar Festival).  Lost In Yonkers, The Art of Burning, Pride and Prejudice, Simona’s Search (Hartford Stage). The Art of Burning, The Band's Visit (Huntington Theatre Company); Associate: Goddess (Berkeley Rep). Assistant: Real Women Have Curves and Queen Of Versailles.  Dance: Hubbard Street Dance, Modern Connections; Resident Lighting Designer for movement company, HoldTight. Awards: OEAA Outstanding Lighting Design - Kinky Boots (2022). Teaching: Boston University, National Theatre Institute. Proud member of USA 829. www.ajajacksonlighting.com | IG: @ajamjackson
Farrell Parker is a DC-based performing artist and owner of Artist Tax Prep - an income tax preparation firm (by artists, for artists) founded in 2018, now serving hundreds of clients nationwide. A proud New Jersey native, Farrell holds a BS in Business Administration from Boston University, a graduate certificate in Digital Media from American University, and an MFA in Classical Acting from the Shakespeare Theatre Company Academy at George Washington University. As a performer, she has been seen at the Kennedy Center, Arena Stage, Woolly Mammoth Theatre Co, Olney Theatre, the Huntington Theatre, and on stage with The Second City - among others. Over the course of her career, Farrell has originated roles in 12 world premiere productions and produced a plethora of live comedy and musical events. Her voice and likeness can be heard and seen in a bunch of commercials and she is a 2025 DC Commission on the Arts and Humanities Fellowship grantee. 
 
 
Jared R. Rogers is an Illinois-licensed Certified Public Accountant and CEO of the Chicago-based financial services firm Wilson Rogers & Company. Prior to his current role, he spent 13 years in the finance function of several major companies including Hyatt Hotels, PepsiCo, Robert Bosch and KPMG LLP. In addition to the above, Jared is also the published author of three books: 
The Real Estate Brokers Little Black Tax Book (CreateSpace Independent Publishing 2020)
How to Slash Your Taxes Legally & Ethically (CreateSpace Independent Publishing 2018)
Pathways to Wealth - A Common Sense Guide to Personal Money Management & Lifestyle Techniques (Authorhouse 2003)
In his role at Wilson Rogers & Company, Jared is responsible for advising clients on matters including income taxes, tax debt resolution and personal financial planning. Through his business dealings over the years, he has reviewed thousands of personal and business income tax returns to ensure not only their accuracy, but that the taxpayer is paying the minimal amount of tax that they are legally obligated to.
Philanthropically, Jared has served as Financial Secretary and Treasurer for the IDeaL Education Foundation. He also has previously volunteered as a tax preparer for the IRS’ Volunteer Income Tax Assistance Program (VITA), which offers free tax help to low-to moderate-income people who cannot prepare their own tax returns. Over the years, Jared has blogged about numerous tax matters, many of which can be found at www.wilsonrogers.net.
 
Instagram Handles
@ajamjackson
@artisttaxprep
@wilsonrogersco
@unitedscenicartists
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel

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