Artistic Finance

Artistic Finance provides theatre makers with honest, no-pretension insights into managing money in the entertainment industry. Hosted by lighting designer Ethan Steimel, this podcast delves into the personal finance challenges and business realities of show business, offering candid advice and practical tools tailored to creatives working behind the scenes. https://www.artisticfinance.com/

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Episodes

3 days ago

On today’s show we go across the pond to the UK. We meet the co-founders of Women in Lighting. It's a project by Light Collective run by our guests Sharon Stammers and Martin Lupton. Amy D Lux guest hosts this interview.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Balancing Money Goals & Lifestyle Goals
⭐️ Starting your own company and following your passions
⭐️ Building a global project that connects 78 countries, and counting
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/9KcEKBeA3lw
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Women In Lighting
https://womeninlighting.com/
 
Light Collective
https://lightcollective.net/
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13668807/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/light-collective-uk/
 
Sharon Stammers
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-stammers-7266abb/
 
Martin Lupton
https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-lupton/
 
LDI - Free registration with promo code ARTISTICFINANCE
https://www.ldishow.com/
 
LDI AF Recording - The Art of Tailoring A Show
https://sched.co/1odhj
 
LDI AF Recording - Financial Independence for Creatives
https://sched.co/1hUTn
 
Light Installations by Christopher Bauder
https://www.christopherbauder.com/
 
Forma Lighting
https://www.formalighting.com/
 
Ayrton
https://www.ayrton.eu/
 
Amy D Lux:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-d-lux-953a7318a/
https://utopiadreamscape.com/author/luvlogica/
 
Light Collective is not a standard lighting consultancy… in fact, we really struggle to categorize ourselves given that our body of light based work is so diverse.
 
Our creative portfolio of work houses more than architectural lighting design and has grown to encompass many innovative projects which include light art installations, marketing projects, competitions, curated exhibitions, lighting awards, branding, trade stands and shows, epic parties, pop up events, guerrilla lighting, community projects and light education.
 
Our clients have ranged from the small scale to the large: designing for a school in Glasgow to a shopping mall in Kuwait, lighting an exhibition at the Museum of London to inventing an app for Phillips… We are based in the UK but have worked all over the world; creating light in the snow in Finland or in the heat of Kenya…
 
All of our work has light at the heart of it and always looks to promote light, lighting design and lighting designers to as wide an audience as possible. Both of us have also previously been active in lighting associations that are dedicated to promoting lighting design globally. We continue this ethos independently in our work.
 
One of our other passions is documenting light. Everywhere we go, we like to film light. Light projects, light art, light events, light products and light people. You can find all our films on Light Collective TV.
 
We are only two people. Martin Lupton and Sharon Stammers. Martin has a PhD in Lighting and Sharon has an MSc. We have both worked in the lighting industry for over 20 years and started Light Collective in 2009.
Martin began in environmental engineering and then moved on to Directorial roles at both Pinniger and Partners and BDP and has worked on many high profile architectural projects prior to co-founding Light Collective. This includes the Cutty Sark, Liverpool One, Westfield, the Royal Albert Memorial Museum, Kelvingrove Museum and many more.
 
Sharon started her career in stage lighting working in London before becoming an Associate Director at both Lighting Design Partnership and Lightmatters. Her previous projects include Heron Quays station, Al Azhar Park, Somerset House and the fountains within the Great Court, the Prince of Wales Theatre, the Coliseum Theatre and the Ashmolean Museum.
 
We are active fans of self commissioning and when we have an idea, we will do what we can to make it happen ourselves.
 
We are always open to any light based challenge you can give us.
 
Instagram Handles
@womeninlighting
@lightcollective
@sharonstammers
@lobolux
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
 
Interview by Amy D Lux

7 days ago

Ellen and Ethan interview Los Angeles based lighting designer, programmer, and video director Erica D Hayes.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Following the money
⭐️ A high school internship leading to a career path
⭐️ Contracts are only as good as the people they’re made with
⭐️ Speed of payments as a contractor with Net 30, Net 45, and Net 60 
⭐️ Joining IATSE 728, The Union Dedicated to Motion Picture Set Lighting
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/WBo6MsgPxoU
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
LDI - Free registration with promo code ARTISTICFINANCE
https://www.ldishow.com/
 
LDI AF Recording - The Art of Tailoring A Show
https://sched.co/1odhj
 
LDI AF Recording - Financial Independence for Creatives
https://sched.co/1hUTn
 
Erica D Hayes
https://www.ericadhayes.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericadhayes/
https://www.instagram.com/ericadhayes/
 
IATSE 728
https://www.iatse728.org/
 
Artistic Finance Resource List
https://www.patreon.com/posts/resource-list-114287278?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
 
KEM
https://www.musicbykem.com/
 
Ledisi
https://www.ledisi.com/
 
The Isley Brothers
https://officialisleybrothers.com/
 
The Pearl Theater
https://www.palms.com/entertainment/pearl-theater
 
Teri Garr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teri_Garr
 
Ellen Lampert-Gréaux
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellen-lampert-gr%C3%A9aux-2abb351b/
 
Erica D. Hayes discovered her gift for lighting the same way she found her love for directing: through a love for music, and a penchant for building genuine relationships. The Detroit, Michigan native was on the road with R&B/soul singer KEM in 2007 as his video director, when she learned that one of his tour mates, future repeat Grammy nominee Ledisi, needed lighting for her own first headlining tour. She asked Ledisi for a shot. In the years since, Hayes has moved to Los Angeles, where she’s become a go-to lighting designer for both legacy acts like The Isley Brothers, Anita Baker, Fantasia, and Run DMC, and contemporary stars like SYD, Coi Leray, and H.E.R., who she toured with. She also designed R&B star Daniel Caesar’s Freudian Tour, and his performance on “The Late Night Show with James Corden.” Additionally, Erica has provided designs for rising stars Flo Millie, Lucky Daye, Amaarae, and FLO, further cementing her reputation as a versatile designer.
 
Once she established herself in the music industry, Hayes prepared to take her talents into television and film. After more than 15 years in the industry, she was initiated into the IATSE 728 union. She was pregnant with her second child, but she didn’t let that stop her: Hayes landed early opportunities as a lighting console programmer for HBO shows such as Made For Love and Westworld. Her work on those shows helped her earn additional gigs for the Nickelodeon sitcom That Girl Lay Lay, HBO’s hit Insecure, and ABC’s Call Me Kat, along with the feature film House Party produced by LeBron James’ Springhill Company.
 
These days, with both the music and film industries at her fingertips, Hayes can afford to be selective with her projects, but that doesn’t mean she’s slowed her pace. She has the phrase “work comes from work” tattooed on her wrist and continues to make moves steadily. Her dedicated approach has led her to work with a multigenerational swath of award-winning musicians, television shows, and feature films with many more ahead for the future.
 
Instagram Handles
@ericadhayes
@iatselocal728
@nicolevsteimel
@ethansteimel
@live.design
@ldishow
 
Hosted by Ellen Lampert-Gréaux and Ethan Steimel

Monday Nov 11, 2024

An interview with two of the union organizers who helped Drunk Shakespeare join the Actor’s Equity Association. Ella Fent from the Chicago production and Clara Kundin from the Phoenix company talk about the long day's journey into unionizing.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Reasons for unionizing
⭐️ Navigating the process of joining AEA
⭐️ The benefits  gained through union membership
⭐️ Advice for other theatre workers considering unionizing
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/G5i2aXVQNPI
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Drunk Shakespeare
https://www.drunkshakespeare.com/welcome
 
Drunk Shakespeare United
https://www.instagram.com/drunkshakesunited/
https://linktr.ee/drunkshakesunited
 
Clara Kundin
https://clarakundin.com/
https://www.instagram.com/clarakallday/?hl=en
 
Ella Fent
https://www.instagram.com/bi.banshee/?hl=en
 
LDI
https://www.ldishow.com/
Free pass with promo code ARTISTICFINANCE
 
Clara Kundin (she/her) is a theater-maker and educator. She holds an MFA in Theatre for Youth & Community with an emphasis in Directing from Arizona State University, a certificate in physical theater from the École Jacques Lecoq, and a BA in Theatre from St. Olaf College. She has performed nationally and internationally including Off-Broadway and is a proud member of Actors’ Equity Association. Most recently, she performed in the original cast of the Phoenix branch of the Off-Broadway hit Drunk Shakespeare. She is now an Assistant Professor of Theatre at Eastern New Mexico University.
 
Ella Fent (she/her) is a union organizer and theater professional in Chicago. She is a volunteer organizer with the Emergency Workplace Organizing Committee (EWOC), and currently serves on Actors’ Equity Committee to Prevent Harassment and Hostile Work Environments. She has a special place in her heart for organizing workplaces around environmental issues, and recently spoke at the 2024 Labor Notes Conference on a panel called “Fight the Boss, Fix the Climate”. She has been a bartender at Drunk Shakespeare for 3 years, and has been part of Drunk Shakespeare United since day 1. 
 
Instagram Handles
@drunkshakesunited
@clarakallday
@bi.banshee
@actorsequity
@nicolevsteimel
@ethansteimel
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Thursday Nov 07, 2024

Lighting and visual production designer Kat Borderud sits down with Ellen and Ethan to talk about handling finances as a touring LD and programmer.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Needs versus wants
⭐️ The ebb and flow of rates
⭐️ Freelancers learning finances on the go
⭐️ Working prep in the rental shops that build tours
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/qQ5AcRshTSE
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Kat Borderud
https://www.katborderud.com/
@katmagik
 
The Art of Tailoring A Show
https://sched.co/1odhj
 
Financial Independence for Creatives
https://sched.co/1hUTn
 
Khruangbin
https://www.khruangbin.com/
 
LDI - use code ARTISTICFINANCE - for a free expo hall pass
https://www.ldishow.com/
 
Ellen Lampert-Gréaux
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellen-lampert-gr%C3%A9aux-2abb351b/
 
Kat Borderud is a Nurnberg, Germany-born multi-disciplinary light artist, production designer, lighting programmer, and lighting director from the USA. Her approach to working with musicians and bands of all sizes comes from both her own musical background and personal place of designing with people she loves dearly, executing a vision of how artists wish to be seen on stage. Kat’s background as a musician growing up fueled her career as lighting designer embodying the visual band member through percussive programming, as well as a designer who can work with artists on a personal level to fulfill their production desires.
 
Instagram Handles
@katmagik
@nicolevsteimel
@ethansteimel
@live.design
@ldishow
 
Hosted by Ellen Lampert-Gréaux and Ethan Steimel

Monday Nov 04, 2024

Performer and musician Matthew LaBanca discussing his upcoming solo show Communion, in which he tells the story of getting fired from his music teaching job by the Catholic Church when he was reported for being gay.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Finding a lead producer using the internet
⭐️ Producing a non-profit off-Broadway mini contract
⭐️ Theatre careers are about relationships, so have integrity because it’s a magnetic trait
⭐️ It’s a solitary career, so let people into your process sooner than later to have company and momentum as you take projects to fruition
 
Pitch Deck
https://www.patreon.com/posts/170-holy-faith-115323912?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/AmztiOgdy-k
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Matthew LaBanca
www.MatthewLaBanca.com
 
Communion
www.CommunionThePlay.com
@communionsoloshow
 
The Cell Theatre
https://www.thecelltheatre.org/
 
New York Times Article
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/nyregion/catholic-school-teacher-fired-same-sex-marriage.html
 
Backstage Jobs (now Off Stage):
https://staging.offstagejobs.com/jobs.php
 
1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture
https://www.1946themovie.com/
Kira Simring - director
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kira-simring-0134025/
 
Alissa Orlando - producer
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alissa-orlando-0118531b/
 
Matthew LaBanca – actor, writer, teacher, musician
Matthew made his Broadway debut with the Mel Brooks musical Young Frankenstein, where he covered the title role and stepped in during previews, garnering great acclaim. He has since appeared on Broadway in White Christmas, as well as the 2019 Tony Award winning play A Christmas Carol. Matthew’s self-penned solo show Good Enough played Off-Broadway at the United Solo Festival, winning the festival's Best Musical Award in 2014.
For years, Matthew worked as a musician and music teacher within the Diocese of Brooklyn and was controversially terminated after he wed his husband in 2021. This led to a media firestorm and, ultimately, the creation of his newest solo show Communion, which makes it’s world premiere Off Broadway November, 2024 for a limited run. Matthew’s story is also portrayed in the new documentary film May All Be Wed, which made its debut on the festival circuit this autumn. 
National Tours: Crazy for You (Bobby), Anything Goes, Joseph...Dreamcoat (cast album). Regional: Mary Poppins (Bert), Singin’ in the Rain (Don Lockwood), A Chorus Line (Zach), Tuesdays with Morrie (Mitch), Love, Valour, Compassion (Perry), and The Rocky Horror Show (Frank-N-Furter, *BroadwayWorld.com Nominee for Best Actor). Matthew has performed at Paper Mill Playhouse, TUTS Houston, Kansas City Starlight, Asolo Rep, San Jose Rep, Cleveland Playhouse, Connecticut Repertory Theatre, the Metropolitan Opera, and Carnegie Hall. His TV credits include Comedy Central's Broad City, Live from Lincoln Center, and the upcoming season of Severance on Apple+. In addition to performing, Matthew is a proud NYC elementary music teacher at PS151 in Woodside, Queens.
 
Instagram Handles
@matthewlabanca 
@communionsoloshow
@kirasimring
@thecelltheatre
@nicolevsteimel
@ethansteimel
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel

Thursday Oct 31, 2024

Ellen and Ethan talk with Emily Malone, head of live events at Disguise, known for hardware and software for events and installations, like the Sphere in Las Vegas. 
 
Topics:
⭐️ Determining rates
⭐️ Saving for overhead
⭐️ Saving for retirement 
⭐️ Benefits of networking
 
We also discuss the Vegas Sphere, Adele’s Munich Show, and Philadelphia Cream Cheese
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/p2ZI0DUH0O4
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
LDI
https://www.ldishow.com/
 
Emily Malone
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyjmalone/
 
Disguise
https://www.disguise.one/en
 
Free Agent
https://www.freeagent.com/us/
 
Ellen Lampert-Gréaux
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellen-lampert-gr%C3%A9aux-2abb351b/
 
Emily Malone is the Head of Live Events at Disguise, where she champions the company’s role at the forefront of the live events industry. Trained at RADA in Technical Theatre and Stage Management, she began working with video at the National Theatre before embarking on a 10 year freelance career as a media server programmer on productions such as Back To The Future: The Musical and War Horse. At Disguise, Emily has remained close to her hands-on production roots, having also held roles in the support and software engineering teams.
 
Instagram Handles
@nicolevsteimel
@ethansteimel
@live.design
@ldishow
 
Hosted by Ellen Lampert-Gréaux and Ethan Steimel
 

Sunday Oct 27, 2024

Amy D Lux interviews Ben Davis, founder of Illuminate, a San Francisco non-profit that rallies large groups of people together to create impossible works of public art. 
 
Topics:
⭐️ The Bay Bridge Lights
⭐️ Raising a million dollars a month
⭐️ Conversely, turning down millions of dollars of funding
⭐️ The economy of generosity vs. economy of reciprocity 
 
Quicklinks - Artistic Finance:
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Video Version:
https://youtu.be/327Aw0bEuAs?si=CDtY99XwNtVgB0rg
 
Illuminate
https://illuminate.org/
 
Ben Davis
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-davis-sf/
 
Musco Lighting
https://www.musco.com/baybridge/
 
Leo Villareal - Bay Bridge Lights
https://villareal.net/the-bay-lights-2013-the-bay-bridge-sf-ca
 
George Zisiadis - Grace Light
https://www.georgezisiadis.com/
 
Gabriel Gold - Grace Light Composer
https://www.gabrielgoldmusic.com/
 
Mark Deem - Misfit Toys
https://goldenmileproject.org/project/remember-when/
 
Reuben Rude - Whale
https://goldenmileproject.org/project/street-whale/
 
Dana King - Rooted (In) Justice
https://goldenmileproject.org/project/rooted-in-justice/
 
Charlie Gadekan
https://goldenmileproject.org/project/tune-in/
 
Doggie Diner Heads
https://goldenmileproject.org/project/doggie-diner-heads/
 
Cristo and Jeanne-Claude
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christo_and_Jeanne-Claude
 
Amy D Lux:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-d-lux-953a7318a/
https://utopiadreamscape.com/author/luvlogica/
 
Instagram Handles
@illuminatethearts
@lobolux
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
 
Interview by Amy D Lux

Thursday Oct 24, 2024

Ellen and Ethan chat with Amanda Carradine, the lighting director for Eastside Christian Church in California. 
 
Topics:
⭐️ Being a church LD
⭐️ Saving for inevitable slow seasons
⭐️ Determining rates for freelance gigs
⭐️ Finding stability in a production career
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/p2ZI0DUH0O4
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
LDI
https://www.ldishow.com/
 
Amanda Carradine
https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandacarradine/
 
FILO
https://filo.org/filo2025/
 
Eastside Christian Church
https://eastside.com/anaheim/
 
Ellen Lampert-Gréaux
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellen-lampert-gr%C3%A9aux-2abb351b/
 
Amanda Carradine is passionate about working in live entertainment and specializes in lighting. She has professional experience in a large variety of venues: theaters, theme parks, cruise ships, houses of worship, broadcast studios, conference/corporate events, and performance arenas. She is currently working full-time as the Lighting Director for Eastside Christian Church, a large multisite church based out of Anaheim, CA, and also contracts for Trinity Broadcasting Network. When she's not working she loves having adventures with her two kids.
 
Instagram Handles
@manda.plus.two
@nicolevsteimel
@ethansteimel
@live.design
@ldishow
 
Hosted by Ellen Lampert-Gréaux and Ethan Steimel

Sunday Oct 20, 2024

An interview with lighting designer Heather Gilbert about financial habits throughout her decades-long career in Chicago and recently on Broadway.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Picking up the tab
⭐️ Asking for higher design fees
⭐️ Freelancer designers filing their own taxes
⭐️ Broadway design fees for plays versus musicals
⭐️ And an apology to Assistant Stage Managers from Lighting Designers
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/o5gZkkBQ5V8
 
Full Interview
https://www.patreon.com/posts/168-windy-city-113688908?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
 
"Entering The Industry" Slideshow & Resource List
https://www.patreon.com/posts/resource-list-114287278?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
Heather Gilbert
https://www.hgilbertdesign.com/
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/heather-gilbert-522765
 
Pay Quarterly Taxes
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/oc-paytaxeswithyourmobiledevice.pdf
 
Per Diem Rates
https://www.gsa.gov/travel/plan-book/per-diem-rates
 
Entertainment Community Fund
https://entertainmentcommunity.org/free-tax-preparation-services
 
Acorns
https://www.acorns.com/
 
Parade
https://paradebroadway.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parade_(musical)
 
David Cromer
https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/david-cromer-478813
 
Laura Ingalls Wilder
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9781250182487
 
Carole King Biography
https://bookshop.org/a/86693/9781455512621
 
The Outsiders
https://outsidersmusical.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outsiders_(musical)
 
Bug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bug_(play)
 
Carrie Coon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Coon
 
Tracy Letts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracy_Letts
 
Scott Pask
https://www.instagram.com/scottpaskstudio/
 
Casa Pask
https://www.instagram.com/casapask/
 
Wilson Chin
https://www.instagram.com/wilsonchindesign/?hl=en
 
Cory Pattak
https://www.instagram.com/corypattak/?hl=en
 
Adam Koch
https://www.instagram.com/instadamkoch/
 
HEATHER GILBERT (Lighting Designer) is a Chicago based lighting designer. Broadway: Parade (Tony Nomination, Drama Desk Nomination), The Sound Inside  (Drama Desk Award, Outer Critics Circle Award, Tony Award Nomination), Cult of Love (Second Stage). Off Broadway Dead Outlaw for Audible at Minetta Lane (Drama Desk Nomination). Chicago: Steppenwolf, Goodman, Writers Theatre, Northlight, Victory Gardens, Court Theatre, Steep Theatre, and many, many storefronts. Regional: The Muny, Center Theatre Group, Studio Theatre, Actors Theatre of Louisville, Alley Theatre, American Repertory Theater, Magic Theatre, Williamstown Theatre Festival, Oregon Shakespeare Festival, Pasadena Playhouse, Berkeley Repertory Theatre and Olney Theatre Center. She is the Head of Lighting Design at Columbia College Chicago and received her MFA at The Theatre School at DePaul University.
 
Instagram Handles
@htglights@unitedscenicartists
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
 
Bookshop.org links are our affiliate links.
 
Interview by Ethan Steimel
 

Thursday Oct 17, 2024

Ellen Lampert-Gréaux and Ethan talk with Roma Flowers, a lighting designer for dance and theatre based in Texas.
 
Topics:
⭐️ Opening a 401k when young
⭐️ Legacy and generational wealth
⭐️ Keeping overhead low in the lean times
⭐️ Partnering with someone better than you at finances
⭐️ Reporting income on taxes to pay into social security
 
Video Version
https://youtu.be/mLgNZFIOOe0
 
Artistic Finance
https://linktr.ee/artisticfinance
 
LDI
https://www.ldishow.com/
 
Ellen Lampert-Gréaux
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellen-lampert-gr%C3%A9aux-2abb351b/
 
Roma Flowers
https://raflowers.wixsite.com/lightingdesign
https://www.linkedin.com/in/roma-flowers-682b8087/
 
Taxes
https://www.artisticfinance.com/96.html
 
Solo 401k
https://www.investopedia.com/best-solo-401k-companies-5089155#:~:text=Fidelity%20is%20our%20best%20overall,wide%20range%20of%20investment%20choices.
 
Sleep No More
https://mckittrickhotel.com/events/sleep-no-more/
 
Then She Fell
https://thenshefell.com/
 
Meow Wolf
https://meowwolf.com/
 
Instagram Handles
@ethansteimel
@nicolevsteimel
@ldishow
@live.design
 
Hosted by Ellen Lampert-Gréaux and Ethan Steimel

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